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Re: ATP/WTA Tour - The Other Players « Reply #990 on: March 21, 2013, 01:19 PM »
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It's this that has made me so suspicious about the whole "knee saga". In my experience, once you get damage in a joint, that has caused major problems over a number of years, eventually you start  heading towards joint replacement surgery. I would also expect that if the knees are so bad, additional stresses would be put on other joints like the hips as a result.  My left hip has been knackered since birth. the consequences of that, and an abnormal walking gait, has caused my other hip and knees to start to deteriorate. Nadal's problems seem to have caused him to have various periods of absence over the last few years, yet he reappears after the breaks without any sign of problems. I suspect that Nadal has the same problems with his knees that you would expect in any sportsman who has been playing high level sport for as long as he has. No more no less. I would be very surprised for example if Andy Murray doesn't end up with early onset arthritis in his knees, hips and shoulders simply because of the way he has hammered them in the course of his career.

I also can not get my head round the fact that the knees conveniently get better at the start of the clay court season each year. To me something simply doesn't add up.

But of course. Not only that, he seems fine the entire clay season sweeping most of the clay titles as usual year after year.

This knee injury saga actually helps him in the big picture. When he sees a big loss (RG, Wimbledon, AO etc.) it’s because of his knees, the excuses are already there. It tells others that Nadal, the player, didn’t lose; it’s his knees that caused the damages. He never wants to give anyone the idea that he can be so easily beaten sometimes, so it’s essentially a mind game for him to keep the control over others including Federer, Djokovic and Murray. And it helps his status as a player as well. He took almost 7 months off to supposedly take care of knees that were so bad that he couldn’t play all this time. And now, upon return, he not only makes the final but also goes on to win 3 titles in a row including a Masters on hard. What kind of message does that give to other players and the fans? Simply that he’s that good despite his knee problem. This tells others, Nadal the player is simply the best in the business and it’s an intimidating message, when in reality, Nadal was soundly beaten by Rosol and his knee had nothing to do with that. But if he admits it, then he loses mental control over others that he tends to capitalize during matches over his opponents. Mr. Nadal is no simple man and neither is Uncle Toni. Most people are gullible so they buy into the knee problem crap but his camp is not fooling everyone.  
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Re: ATP/WTA Tour - The Other Players « Reply #991 on: March 21, 2013, 01:27 PM »
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I can live without any social networking and been living for a while. I have zero communication with anyone in the past. I don't miss a thing. I always try to live in the now. Those I came to know in the past, I wish them very well and hope that they are doing very well, but other than that, I have no interest in them. I like to move on. Even with my family I have a healthy relationship but can’t say I must have them around me. In short, I have very little information out there about me. It’s very hard to get a hold of me in real life or so some people have complained! lol
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Re: ATP/WTA Tour - The Other Players « Reply #992 on: March 21, 2013, 02:27 PM »
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Social networking sites like twitter & facebook have  good and bad points like most things in life. Im on facebook and have got back in touch with a lot of old school friends etc that i would prob never have seen again otherwise and had many a great time catching up and reminising with them. Some people on them go way  over the top revealing all about their lives but thats up to them. Ifind if you manage it correctly it can be a good thing.
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Re: ATP/WTA Tour - The Other Players « Reply #993 on: March 21, 2013, 03:13 PM »
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Ah yes, the "silent ban" theory. It's not exclusive to Rafa this one - apparently Serena and Soderling have also served/are serving silent bans. Basically any top player who's out for more than a couple of months is under suspicion, which is unfair imo. It's not a theory I buy at all - WADA and the ITF/ATP would have way too much to lose if it ever came out that they covered up positive PED tests (and given the number of people who would be involved in the cover-up, it would come out in the end). Their credibility would be gone.
I totally agree, Katie, which is why I don't buy this theory either, and I bet that if Andy was ever in this situation (which god forbid), there would be howls of denial and protest from the members of this forum, including no doubt the same ones who are pointing the finger at Nadal.


I agree about Facebook I have a very good friend in Australia and also some family members so it is handy to keep in touch. I agree about talking about personal matters I don't I talk about them in general. I do not think it is advisable to talk to freely about personal matters with people you do not really know.
I couldn't function without social networking.  I don't socialise with anyone locally and the best friends I have live all over the place.  If I didn't communicate online then I would never communicate at all (outside of work).
I wasn't meaning to imply that Facebook per se is unacceptable to me, but what I see as the abuse of it by irresponsible users.  This is probably an extreme example - but what about teenagers who post information on FB giving details of a forthcoming party, something which is intended only for their friends to see - yet in no time it's gone viral and hundreds of strangers turn up, very often at their unsuspecting parents' homes and trashing the place in the process?
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Re: ATP/WTA Tour - The Other Players « Reply #994 on: March 21, 2013, 05:07 PM »
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Social networking sites like twitter & facebook have  good and bad points like most things in life. Im on facebook and have got back in touch with a lot of old school friends etc that i would prob never have seen again otherwise and had many a great time catching up and reminising with them. Some people on them go way  over the top revealing all about their lives but thats up to them. Ifind if you manage it correctly it can be a good thing.

Although I don't have twitter and Facebook, I think they're great ways to keep in touch with friends/family. My nearest and dearest, and farthest away, all use Facebook.. so I'm always up on what's going on with them, and them with me.  I tend to use Skype when keeping in touch with Scotland. We walk about with our laptops showing each other what's going on inside/outside our houses. It's a laugh, and a lot more personal.

The only reason I bought up twitter was to demonstrate how things are changing in the media. We no longer need to rely on what a commentator or news reporter says because we probably know more than they do. Today's fans are very savvy, and many celebrities use twitter to talk to their fans, building a 'relationship' with them.

I know Andy doesn't like twitter, and I actually prefer that he doesn't. I respect how he keeps his own counsel. But there are many players who use twitter and have huge fan bases, and most of those fans likely won't be reading a newspaper or relying on match commentators to know what's going with their favourite player.
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Re: ATP/WTA Tour - The Other Players « Reply #995 on: March 21, 2013, 05:12 PM »
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Bloody Sloane Stephens. The girl is my favourite WTA player and she can't even win a match. Gets 6-0ed by a pusher.
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Re: ATP/WTA Tour - The Other Players « Reply #996 on: March 21, 2013, 05:20 PM »
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Although I don't have twitter and Facebook, I think they're great ways to keep in touch with friends/family. My nearest and dearest, and farthest away, all use Facebook.. so I'm always up on what's going on with them, and them with me.  I tend to use Skype when keeping in touch with Scotland. We walk about with our laptops showing each other what's going on inside/outside our houses. It's a laugh, and a lot more personal.

The only reason I bought up twitter was to demonstrate how things are changing in the media. We no longer need to rely on what a commentator or news reporter says because we probably know more than they do. Today's fans are very savvy, and many celebrities use twitter to talk to their fans, building a 'relationship' with them.

I know Andy doesn't like twitter, and I actually prefer that he doesn't. I respect how he keeps his own counsel. But there are many players who use twitter and have huge fan bases, and most of those fans likely won't be reading a newspaper or relying on match commentators to know what's going with their favourite player.

Yeah Linda if it wasn't for Facebook and MW I probably wouldn't get so much reliable info on Andy because we all know a lot what's written in papers about him is garbage, I'm under no illusion that its Andy posting all these Facebook stats but its obviously someone on his team so you know its reliable info. His own website is next to useless they are always dasys/weeks behind.
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Re: ATP/WTA Tour - The Other Players « Reply #997 on: March 21, 2013, 05:21 PM »
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Bloody Sloane Stephens. The girl is my favourite WTA player and she can't even win a match. Gets 6-0ed by a pusher.

We all have "off days" gangsta  w00t
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Re: ATP/WTA Tour - The Other Players « Reply #998 on: March 21, 2013, 05:27 PM »
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We all have "off days" gangsta  w00t

Since her SF AO showing she is on a 3 match losing stretch. That's not an off day, its a bleeding disaster.
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Re: ATP/WTA Tour - The Other Players « Reply #999 on: March 21, 2013, 05:29 PM »
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Since her SF AO showing she is on a 3 match losing stretch. That's not an off day, its a bleeding disaster.

Rubbish she will bounce back
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Re: ATP/WTA Tour - The Other Players « Reply #1000 on: March 21, 2013, 05:30 PM »
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Rubbish she will bounce back

Did you watch her beat Serena? She is so talented, but it could easily be wasted.
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Re: ATP/WTA Tour - The Other Players « Reply #1001 on: March 21, 2013, 05:31 PM »
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Yeah I seen that match. She's also still very young I still predict a bright future for her
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Re: ATP/WTA Tour - The Other Players « Reply #1002 on: March 21, 2013, 05:33 PM »
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She needs to hire Richard Williams.
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Re: ATP/WTA Tour - The Other Players « Reply #1003 on: March 21, 2013, 05:45 PM »
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I am not sure how Uncle Toni can make such a big assumption on Federer's back. Also, he's trying to take the pressure off of Nadal already. And he also thinks Ferrer has more chances winning RG than Federer.

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Toni Nadal, the uncle and coach of Rafael Nadal, says that in his opinion, Roger Federer was not seriously injured when he lost to his nephew in straight sets in the quarterfinals of Indian Wells last week. Federer had a back injury.

“Federer has beaten us more than once with Rafael having significantly more pain than [Roger] was in at Indian Wells,” Toni Nadal told Puntodebreak.com. “I'm clear that the situation of Federer [at Indian Wells] was no worse than that Rafael has had on many other occasions.”

Toni Nadal also named his favorites for Roland Garros. He said seven-time Roland Garros champion Rafa is not the clear favorite, but just one of a group of favorites that includes Novak Djokovic, Andy Murray, Juan Martin del Potro, and David Ferrer. He added that he does not see former champion Federer as a favorite.

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/.../#.UUoGIBfwmAl
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Re: ATP/WTA Tour - The Other Players « Reply #1004 on: March 21, 2013, 05:45 PM »
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SP Sloane. Cmonnnnnn.
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