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Question: Since David Ferrer, Mardy Fish and Jo Wilfried Tsonga will make the finals. Who will get the last spot?
Tomas Berdych - 7 (87.5%)
Gilles Simon - 1 (12.5%)
Janko Tipsarevic - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 7

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Re: Barclays ATP World Tour Finals 2011 « Reply #45 on: November 22, 2011, 12:24 AM »
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Great guts there from Nole got to feel for Berdych he had the match in the palm of his hand but Novak just doesn't know when he is beaten!!
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Re: Barclays ATP World Tour Finals 2011 « Reply #46 on: November 22, 2011, 10:14 AM »
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So how was the Nole/Tomas match?  I only watched via livescores.  Did the No.1 struggle as the scores suggest?  Serve stats were 58% 1st set, 82% 2nd set, and 57% 3rd set for Nole.  Tomas didn't get above 50% all match. Think

Yes, Nole did struggle Bev - as he himself said, Tomas played the better tennis. However, like Jo against Fed and Fish against Rafa, he couldn't quite pull it off.  Whether it's the aura of their opponents or the gladiatorial nature of the venue - the underdogs just not being able to wrap it up has been the story of the first round - except Andy v Ferrer sadly!
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Re: Barclays ATP World Tour Finals 2011 « Reply #47 on: November 22, 2011, 10:38 AM »
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Great guts there from Nole got to feel for Berdych he had the match in the palm of his hand but Novak just doesn't know when he is beaten!!

And Berdych doesn't know how to win. On that match point, all he had to do was keep feeding Djokovic deep, hard balls, moving him around and waiting for an opportunity. But, oh no, he saw red and had to go for a wild forehand, which he embedded in the lower part of the net.

When the tiebreak started, I said to my wife, 'If Berdych wins this, you can have £500 to spend on whatever you like'. My money was never in danger.
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Re: Barclays ATP World Tour Finals 2011 « Reply #48 on: November 22, 2011, 11:38 AM »
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And Berdych doesn't know how to win. On that match point, all he had to do was keep feeding Djokovic deep, hard balls, moving him around and waiting for an opportunity. But, oh no, he saw red and had to go for a wild forehand, which he embedded in the lower part of the net.

When the tiebreak started, I said to my wife, 'If Berdych wins this, you can have £500 to spend on whatever you like'. My money was never in danger.

It was a bit of a choke from Tomas but a lot of that has to do with who he was playing he went for too much largely because he felt he had to against a great defender and mover like Novak.
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Re: Barclays ATP World Tour Finals 2011 « Reply #49 on: November 22, 2011, 01:40 PM »
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C'mon Grabcopy -if you have a spare £500 in your back pocket be a nice guy and give it to your wife anyway.    Whistle
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Re: Barclays ATP World Tour Finals 2011 « Reply #50 on: November 22, 2011, 09:03 PM »
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Nadal getting destroyed.
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Re: Barclays ATP World Tour Finals 2011 « Reply #51 on: November 22, 2011, 09:07 PM »
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Rafa doesnt seem anywhere near his usual self
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Re: Barclays ATP World Tour Finals 2011 « Reply #52 on: November 22, 2011, 09:34 PM »
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Well it's down to Nole I guess now.
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Re: Barclays ATP World Tour Finals 2011 « Reply #53 on: November 22, 2011, 10:20 PM »
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Masterful performance from Roger, Rafa on any surface is always a tough match up but it was dealt with ease!

Hard to see anyone stopping Roger this week, Novak if he is at his bet may have a chance but last nights performance won't fill him with too much confidence
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Re: Barclays ATP World Tour Finals 2011 « Reply #54 on: November 22, 2011, 10:33 PM »
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As espected, Federer is the only one fit from the top4.
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Re: Barclays ATP World Tour Finals 2011 « Reply #55 on: November 22, 2011, 10:36 PM »
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As espected, Federer is the only one fit from the top4.

Yep, therefore if he goes on to win the tournament and reclaim No 3, it won't count. There ought to be an asterisk next to his title and ranking.
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Re: Barclays ATP World Tour Finals 2011 « Reply #56 on: November 22, 2011, 10:37 PM »
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As espected, Federer is the only one fit from the top4.
Yes, certainly looks that way. Rafa's clearly ill, although he doesn't play as well indoors, that was a big time collapse.
Fed's beautiful to watch though, just a pity about his off court remarks.
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Re: Barclays ATP World Tour Finals 2011 « Reply #57 on: November 23, 2011, 12:02 AM »
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Yep, therefore if he goes on to win the tournament and reclaim No 3, it won't count. There ought to be an asterisk next to his title and ranking.

Those 6 weeks off reaping the benefits now I guess.
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Re: Barclays ATP World Tour Finals 2011 « Reply #58 on: November 23, 2011, 12:03 AM »
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Masterful performance from Roger, Rafa on any surface is always a tough match up but it was dealt with ease!

Hard to see anyone stopping Roger this week, Novak if he is at his bet may have a chance but last nights performance won't fill him with too much confidence

Clearly Rafa not fully fit - even I could see that from the livescores!
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Re: Barclays ATP World Tour Finals 2011 « Reply #59 on: November 23, 2011, 12:53 AM »
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Nadal shouldn't have played this tournament. He's clearly not himself lately. All those beatings from Nole took its toll on him. He should have really stayed away from this event. Will Nadal continue to play in this condition? Or will he retire too?

Nole has a bit of an easier path now that Andy has withdrawn and he's already beaten Berdych just yesterday, I don't think he'll have any problems beating both Tipsy and Ferrer. Ferrer must be done after beating Andy; don't see him doing the same to Nole. In anyway case, I can see the stage being set: Nole vs Tsonga; Federer vs Ferrer. That would be tough on Nole. He barely survived against Berdych yesterday so I am not sure if he's 100% at all. The sharpness is definitely gone and looks jaded too. This tournament is shaping up to be one of the worst events of the year given its weight. I have lost interest I must admit now that Andy's gone for the year.
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