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Mark
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Re: Club talk and tennis tips
« Reply #90 on: June 03, 2009, 06:35 PM »
I've been playing tennis pretty much all my life, I have grown up with tennis courts next to my garden. I'm no tennis expert but you don't need to be an expert to know when a lower bounce is giving you more time, it depends on your opponent's style.
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Re: Club talk and tennis tips
« Reply #91 on: June 03, 2009, 06:37 PM »
Quote from: Mark on June 03, 2009, 06:35 PM
I've been playing tennis pretty much all my life, I have grown up with tennis courts next to my garden. I'm no tennis expert but you don't need to be an expert to know when a lower bounce is giving you more time, it depends on your opponent's style.
Well, you know I'm tweaking your tail ......... apart from that, I'm not really getting what you're saying.
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Re: Club talk and tennis tips
« Reply #92 on: June 03, 2009, 06:51 PM »
Deep balls that bounce low give you more time to make a decent swing at it, deep balls that bounce high means you have less time and end up hitting shoulder height.
To experience this you would need to generally position yourself on the baseline rather than behind or simply have a deep hitting partner... if none of those apply to you then maybe that could be why you are struggling to understand this.
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Re: Club talk and tennis tips
« Reply #93 on: June 03, 2009, 07:12 PM »
Quote from: Mark on June 03, 2009, 06:51 PM
Deep balls that bounce low give you more time to make a decent swing at it, deep balls that bounce high means you have less time and end up hitting shoulder height.
To experience this you would need to generally position yourself on the baseline rather than behind or simply have a deep hitting partner... if none of those apply to you then maybe that could be why you are struggling to understand this.
Okay .... let's see if I can parrot this back to you ....
First we were talking about grass. Now, it has been my experience that a deep ball that bounces low on grass gives very little time for the player to reach the ball before it bounces twice and the point is lost. Or it bounces low and skids out if it has been hit with any kind of serious pace. Also, I am not in the Agassi class i.e. have the ability to stand on the baseline and half volley. Are we getting any closer on this or am I still not getting it?
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Re: Club talk and tennis tips
« Reply #94 on: June 03, 2009, 07:57 PM »
Quote from: Daisy on June 03, 2009, 07:12 PM
Now, it has been my experience that a deep ball that bounces low on grass gives very little time for the player to reach the ball before it bounces twice
Correct but that isn't an issue with deep balls and therefore playing on grass against a deep hitter sometimes means the low bounce can help. This is being said from my experience on grass at club level, it could be that Wimbledon grass is very different to what I play on.
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Re: Club talk and tennis tips
« Reply #95 on: June 03, 2009, 08:26 PM »
Quote from: Mark on June 03, 2009, 07:57 PM
Correct but that isn't an issue with deep balls and therefore playing on grass against a deep hitter sometimes means the low bounce can help. This is being said from my experience on grass at club level,
it could be that Wimbledon grass is very different to what I play on
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that's why I was kidding you earlier about long grass and cow pats
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Re: Club talk and tennis tips
« Reply #96 on: June 03, 2009, 08:29 PM »
I don't know, just saying it's possible. It seems short to me so I would be surprised if it was "very" different.
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Re: Club talk and tennis tips
« Reply #97 on: June 03, 2009, 08:30 PM »
Quote from: Mark on June 03, 2009, 08:29 PM
I don't know, just saying it's possible. It seems short to me so I would be surprised if it was "very" different.
How many grass courts are there at your club? I'm sure you're right and they could not be so very different from Wimbledon, at least length wise. Are they pretty even - what about bad bounces?
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Re: Club talk and tennis tips
« Reply #98 on: June 03, 2009, 08:32 PM »
8 grass courts, I haven't noticed any dodgy bounces while in rallies...
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Re: Club talk and tennis tips
« Reply #99 on: June 03, 2009, 08:34 PM »
Wow - 8 is a big number. that's quite a lot of maintenance. What about the other courts - what type and how many and what size is the membership?
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Re: Club talk and tennis tips
« Reply #100 on: June 03, 2009, 08:36 PM »
4 all weather, 3 inside HC and 8 grass.
I don't know size of membership.
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Re: Club talk and tennis tips
« Reply #101 on: June 03, 2009, 08:38 PM »
That's a nice combo .......... well, you would know if the membership is too large i.e. you have to book a long way ahead or can't get the court you want when you want it ...
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Re: Club talk and tennis tips
« Reply #102 on: June 03, 2009, 08:50 PM »
I often can't get the court I want but I almost always have a court to play on and I don't think you can book ahead, you can only book a slot while you are there. I don't know what a big or small club membership is so can't really say what mine is.
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Re: Club talk and tennis tips
« Reply #103 on: June 03, 2009, 08:55 PM »
Well, so long as you can get a game, that is the main thing ...... and it most probably doesn't matter overly much which type of court you play on as it is purely recreational.
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Re: Club talk and tennis tips
« Reply #104 on: June 15, 2009, 04:36 PM »
Have finally made the transition from one handed BH to two handed BH, with increasing success, starting to hit with consistent depth now and take the ball on the rise much easier.
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