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Re: Davis Cup: GB vs Belgium 6-8 April
« Reply #45 on: April 07, 2012, 09:57 AM »
Quote from: Grabcopy on April 06, 2012, 07:42 PM
So if we had a great player from Northern Ireland, he couldn't play for Britain in the DC? So, presumably, NI have a DC team?
I don't understand this country. I don't even know which country I live in.
Parentage, grand-parentage, residence for x number of years is probably the way most sportsmen guarantee their eligibility to cross borders.
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Re: Davis Cup: GB vs Belgium 6-8 April
« Reply #46 on: April 07, 2012, 10:00 AM »
If Scotland had a separate DC Team, do you think Andy would have played this particular weekend and please be TRULY honest with your responses.
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Re: Davis Cup: GB vs Belgium 6-8 April
« Reply #47 on: April 07, 2012, 10:12 AM »
Quote from: FCR on April 07, 2012, 10:00 AM
If Scotland had a separate DC Team, do you think Andy would have played this particular weekend and please be TRULY honest with your responses.
I honestly don't think he would. It's so important for him to be properly prepared for the clay swing ahead, particularly since he finds this surface more difficult than his main rivals do. I think he would have made the same decision whether he was representing GB or Scotland. If he'd played here and then lost early in the forthcoming Masters, no-one would be praising him then for playing Davis Cup.
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Re: Davis Cup: GB vs Belgium 6-8 April
« Reply #48 on: April 07, 2012, 10:12 AM »
Quote from: FCR on April 07, 2012, 10:00 AM
If Scotland had a separate DC Team, do you think Andy would have played this particular weekend and please be TRULY honest with your responses.
NO,NO, NO. It would not have made any difference. He couldn't come from practicing on clay to hard indoors and then on to Monte Carlo to clay again, he has to do what is best for him.
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Re: Davis Cup: GB vs Belgium 6-8 April
« Reply #49 on: April 07, 2012, 11:01 AM »
Quote from: Katie on April 07, 2012, 10:12 AM
I honestly don't think he would. It's so important for him to be properly prepared for the clay swing ahead, particularly since he finds this surface more difficult than his main rivals do. I think he would have made the same decision whether he was representing GB or Scotland. If he'd played here and then lost early in the forthcoming Masters, no-one would be praising him then for playing Davis Cup.
The commentary team yesterday did say that although it would have been expensive, the venue in GB could have been clay, had that been the home team's chosen surface, which is their prerogative, so no excuses regarding the surface, I'm afraid. Obviously this choice would have needed to be made well in advance. I think they said the cut off for Andy to choose whether to play or not was something like 3 days before the event began, so obviously you couldn't suddenly change Braehead to clay in that short time. One of the Belgians being interviewed courtside said they were expecting Andy might change his mind at the eleventh hour.
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Re: Davis Cup: GB vs Belgium 6-8 April
« Reply #50 on: April 07, 2012, 12:31 PM »
No I do not think Andy would have played for a Scotland team. For a start who else would be in the team, even if we had enough reasonable players for a team. Andy is quite right not to play for GB at this time he has to start being selfish and look after himself. He cannot win if he does not play for GB he is rubbished in the press. The English public in particular are the one's who make the most complaints about him, so why should he bother. As Michelle says he is practicing on CLAY at the moment he would have to play on HARD COURTS if he played at Braehead. He has to look after himself and keep free from injury.
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Re: Davis Cup: GB vs Belgium 6-8 April
« Reply #51 on: April 07, 2012, 12:59 PM »
OMG, I just actually agreed with Andrew Castle: 'Colin is one of my favourite players in the world. He has a real gift'.
Couldn't agree more. Colin Fleming oozes talent.
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Re: Davis Cup: GB vs Belgium 6-8 April
« Reply #52 on: April 07, 2012, 01:12 PM »
Michelle, you are quite correct the LTA have done nothing for Andu he ent to Barcelona and trained there the only thing they did was to help pay for Brad gilbert but everything else he has done on his own. lets face it if he had been on the LTA track he would not be where he is today, that is for sure.
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Re: Davis Cup: GB vs Belgium 6-8 April
« Reply #53 on: April 07, 2012, 01:58 PM »
Quote from: FCR on April 07, 2012, 11:01 AM
The commentary team yesterday did say that although it would have been expensive, the venue in GB could have been clay, had that been the home team's chosen surface, which is their prerogative, so no excuses regarding the surface, I'm afraid. Obviously this choice would have needed to be made well in advance. I think they said the cut off for Andy to choose whether to play or not was something like 3 days before the event began, so obviously you couldn't suddenly change Braehead to clay in that short time. One of the Belgians being interviewed courtside said they were expecting Andy might change his mind at the eleventh hour.
True, the surface could have been chosen as clay. But it would have to be an indoor clay event which again would not be compatible with Andy's preparations for Monte Carlo. He'd still have had to train with the team for a week before the tie, which isn't the same as working on improving his clay game with Ivan.
I think had this tie been after Wimbledon in a non-Olympic year then he'd have played. But this year is so packed that there's just not much time left for Davis Cup participation.
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Re: Davis Cup: GB vs Belgium 6-8 April
« Reply #54 on: April 07, 2012, 02:29 PM »
Anybody else get that horrible, awkward feeling when you're at home watching the tennis with a room full of people who would all prefer to be watching the football?
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Re: Davis Cup: GB vs Belgium 6-8 April
« Reply #55 on: April 07, 2012, 05:34 PM »
Just back to the hotel after the second day at Braehead, great atmosphere today and a really good match, both Flemings and Hutchins played really well, so it is pulled back to 2-1, not really that unexpected given that Colin and Ross are developing into such a quality doubles team (announced just before the match they are 10th in the race for London). Still a very uphill task for team GB, Rochus is a quality player. Still firmly believe that Andy did totally the right thing in not playing this weekend, it would have totally wrecked his clay court preparations, would much rather see him defending and bettering his points from last year. Team GB need to be able to do something without relying solely on Andy. Pity Dan Evans is not playing first as he has the potential to even up the tie, his ranking really does belie his ability, cracking player with a lot of guts. One thing that is blatantly obvious is the difference that a good captain makes i.e. Not John Lloyd, the players and the back room team are so together and there for each other unlike days gone by when JL pillarised players and did not care who he trampled on.
The uni students did a great job in keeping the crowd entertained today, particularly the four of them that were dressed in skimpy very clingy union jack dresses complete with matching handbags. I did a double take as I thought "the years have nae been kind to Ginger Spice". The students are worth the entrance money alone, they do a great job of cheerleading the team. Hope they are all on song and in costume for tomorrow.
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Re: Davis Cup: GB vs Belgium 6-8 April
« Reply #56 on: April 07, 2012, 05:53 PM »
Quote from: Grabcopy on April 07, 2012, 02:29 PM
Anybody else get that horrible, awkward feeling when you're at home watching the tennis with a room full of people who would all prefer to be watching the football?
Send them home Nigel!
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Re: Davis Cup: GB vs Belgium 6-8 April
« Reply #57 on: April 07, 2012, 05:53 PM »
Quote from: FCR on April 07, 2012, 10:00 AM
If Scotland had a separate DC Team, do you think Andy would have played this particular weekend and please be TRULY honest with your responses.
Absolutely not - Andy is quite rightly focussed on his preparations for the clay court season. It wouldn't matter who he was playing for - the timing is absolutely wrong. Nadal and Djokovic are not playing this weekend either.
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Re: Davis Cup: GB vs Belgium 6-8 April
« Reply #58 on: April 07, 2012, 08:38 PM »
Quote from: Murray Magic on April 07, 2012, 05:34 PM
Just back to the hotel after the second day at Braehead, great atmosphere today and a really good match, both Flemings and Hutchins played really well, so it is pulled back to 2-1, not really that unexpected given that Colin and Ross are developing into such a quality doubles team (announced just before the match they are 10th in the race for London). Still a very uphill task for team GB, Rochus is a quality player. Still firmly believe that Andy did totally the right thing in not playing this weekend, it would have totally wrecked his clay court preparations, would much rather see him defending and bettering his points from last year. Team GB need to be able to do something without relying solely on Andy. Pity Dan Evans is not playing first as he has the potential to even up the tie, his ranking really does belie his ability, cracking player with a lot of guts. One thing that is blatantly obvious is the difference that a good captain makes i.e. Not John Lloyd, the players and the back room team are so together and there for each other unlike days gone by when JL pillarised players and did not care who he trampled on.
The uni students did a great job in keeping the crowd entertained today, particularly the four of them that were dressed in skimpy very clingy union jack dresses complete with matching handbags. I did a double take as I thought "the years have nae been kind to Ginger Spice". The students are worth the entrance money alone, they do a great job of cheerleading the team. Hope they are all on song and in costume for tomorrow.
Thanks for the report MM. Glad Colin and Ross managed to win in four sets - seems it was quite a nail-biter! So no change for tomorrow's singles then. I'm sure the lads will play their hearts out and give the Belgians another fight, even if they do lose. They're obviously really up for it - another sign of a good captain. JL was about as inspirational as a wet sponge, but don't even get me started on him!!
Sounds like the Uni students alone are almost worth the entrance money!
Interesting what you say about Dan Evans. He showed right at the start that he had great potential, then fell by the wayside a bit (bad boy of British tennis, etc). Now that he seems to have taken a tumble to himself, I hope he goes on to have a successful career.
Quote from: FCR on April 07, 2012, 10:00 AM
If Scotland had a separate DC Team, do you think Andy would have played this particular weekend and please be TRULY honest with your responses.
Being truly honest - In the circumstances, no. Not with such a heavy schedule this year and training with Lendl for the clay-court season. Scotland would have had a reasonably good team comprised of Colin Fleming, Jamie Murray and Jamie Baker. Fleming/Murray for the doubles, and Baker with either of them for the singles. I think he would have played though if there had been a possibility of Scotland being relegated.
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Re: Davis Cup: GB vs Belgium 6-8 April
« Reply #59 on: April 07, 2012, 09:25 PM »
Quote from: Aileen on April 07, 2012, 08:38 PM
Being truly honest - In the circumstances, no. Not with such a heavy schedule this year and training with Lendl for the clay-court season. Scotland would have had a reasonably good team comprised of Colin Fleming, Jamie Murray and Jamie Baker. Fleming/Murray for the doubles, and Baker with either of them for the singles. I think he would have played though if there had been a possibility of Scotland being relegated.
Could have 17 year old Jonny O'Mara for the 2nd singles. Though it would more likely to be Fleming playing that role.
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