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Connor
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Re: Doping in Tennis ? « Reply #465 on: October 11, 2013, 09:40 PM »
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I think that there are an ever increasing number of people, many of them probably reluctantly, who are starting to face the facts that there are too many things about Nadal that do not add up. They are also starting to see the unavoidable  similarities between Rafael Nadal and Lance Armstrong.

I am not interested in the drivel and deliberate confusing the issues that come out the Kneedal camp. What I am interested are the simple facts:-

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A) Nadal purportedly has had ever increasing problems with his knee joints.

B) Nadal has shown no signs of any real problems with his knee joints. Just because he and his team might say his knees were hurting, it doesn't mean they were.  For example my rheumatoid arthritis has attacked my right knee over the last 24 hours. The consequence of that has been a fair amount of screaming, flinching and walking at a third of my normal pace, not too mention needing to use my stick even around the house. Ie it has been completely obvious that there is a major problem. Once the attack passes I will still have the effects of many previous attacks in the joint. Those effects will be apparent. No amount of physio will remove that because the underlying joint structure is damaged.

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A) Kneedal was off the tour for 7 months with these purported knee injuries.

B) Given he seemingly doesn't have any knee problems then why was he off the tour?

This pattern seems to be a feature of his tennis career.

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A)  Are there any other possible/probable explanations for the situation and the inconsistencies?

B) Yes there are



Other people may wish to believe that Kneedal is as pure as the driven snow and an all round nice humble guy. Sorry in my view that would require a suspension of disbelief that I personally am not capable of.

As somebody said elsewhere "If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, the odds are it is a duck". Ie "If it acts like you would expect a doper to act, and performs like you might expect a doper to performs one might be forgiven for reaching the conclusion that it is a doper".


I can now officially confirm, this forum is on a crash course to hell.
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Re: Doping in Tennis ? « Reply #466 on: October 11, 2013, 10:41 PM »
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^ And you, understandably, are a fairly naive teenager - which is not a criticism btw because we were all teenagers once.


Sorry forgot to say thanks for the support. 
You can add me to the list Masaka.
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Re: Doping in Tennis ? « Reply #467 on: October 11, 2013, 10:46 PM »
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^ And you, understandably, are a fairly naive teenager - which is not a criticism btw because we were all teenagers once.

You can add me to the list Masaka.

Thanks.
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Re: Doping in Tennis ? « Reply #468 on: October 12, 2013, 07:09 AM »
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You can certainly add me to the list.  All you have posted is exactly why so many people are beginning to question.
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Re: Doping in Tennis ? « Reply #469 on: October 12, 2013, 07:32 AM »
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You can certainly add me to the list.  All you have posted is exactly why so many people are beginning to question.
You can add me to the list, his complete recovery from his knees and a comeback after 7 months of no practice beggers belief. I feel sorry for Rafa as I feel he has been put in this situation by those around him ie Uncle Tony et al. As Aileen will back me up I always felt the complete turn around of Nole was not achieved by normal means and a Gluten free diet would never brought about it either as any specialist in this area will testify.
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Re: Doping in Tennis ? « Reply #470 on: October 12, 2013, 07:52 AM »
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You can add me to that list too.  Unfortunately, I very much doubt that the truth will ever come out although we can always live in hope.
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Re: Doping in Tennis ? « Reply #471 on: October 12, 2013, 10:24 AM »
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You can add me to that list too.  Unfortunately, I very much doubt that the truth will ever come out although we can always live in hope.

I think it will come out, although the probability is after he has stopped playing. There will always be someone in the know who sees a chance to cash in by revealing all. It only takes one disgruntled employee, to say one thing that will trigger the avalanche.

I really appreciate all of you who are nailing your colours to the mast alongside of me. Being a heretic is a lonely business sometimes.

It seems so obvious to me. I get confused by the fact some people don't seem to see it.

 Djokovic's gluten free nonsense also applies. If gluten really affected him so much, surely he would have been ill with something like IBS to the point of struggling to play at all. It would also have been picked up as a health issue when he was a child. If it wasn't then removing it from his diet shouldn't have made that much difference. It just comes over as complete bull**it to me, and therefore we need for to look for an alternative explanation for his meteoric rise.

I should point out I think doping is undoubtedly endemic in lots of sports, but I think tennis is one of the few actively trying to avoid addressing the issue, and catch the major offenders.
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Re: Doping in Tennis ? « Reply #472 on: October 12, 2013, 10:45 AM »
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I think it will come out, although the probability is after he has stopped playing. There will always be someone in the know who sees a chance to cash in by revealing all. It only takes one disgruntled employee, to say one thing that will trigger the avalanche.

I really appreciate all of you who are nailing your colours to the mast alongside of me. Being a heretic is a lonely business sometimes.

It seems so obvious to me. I get confused by the fact some people don't seem to see it.

 Djokovic's gluten free nonsense also applies. If gluten really affected him so much, surely he would have been ill with something like IBS to the point of struggling to play at all. It would also have been picked up as a health issue when he was a child. If it wasn't then removing it from his diet shouldn't have made that much difference. It just comes over as complete bull**it to me, and therefore we need for to look for an alternative explanation for his meteoric rise.

I should point out I think doping is undoubtedly endemic in lots of sports, but I think tennis is one of the few actively trying to avoid addressing the issue, and catch the major offenders.

Lol, no surprise there then.
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Re: Doping in Tennis ? « Reply #473 on: October 12, 2013, 12:20 PM »
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I agree with you too Masaka there is no smoke without fire. Rafa will get caught. He should get rid of Uncle Toni he has far too much influence over Rafa.
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Re: Doping in Tennis ? « Reply #474 on: October 12, 2013, 12:59 PM »
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I found Rafa's autobiography quite uncomfortable to read and actually very sad.  Uncle Toni comes across as nothing less than a manipulative bully who has been allowed complete control over Rafa's life.  I am surprised that the family allowed it to be printed but then perhaps they are so close to it that they just don't see it.
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Re: Doping in Tennis ? « Reply #475 on: October 12, 2013, 01:06 PM »
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I agree Alis. I felt very sorry for Rafa. No wonder he is so full of tics and twitches. Don't believe a word Uncle T says either. If he told me the sky was blue, I'd have to check Rolling Eyes
BTW Have yet to be convinced that Rafa's doping. Innocent till proved guilty say I.
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Re: Doping in Tennis ? « Reply #476 on: October 12, 2013, 01:14 PM »
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I'm amazed Rafa was allowed to say the things he said in his book. I found it amazing disrespectful, for someone with such class, or who likes to at least give that impression (although that's arguably what 'class' is - your exterior demeanour, regardless of what you're actually thinking). He clearly harbours a lot of resentment towards Toni. Maybe it was a cry for help.
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Re: Doping in Tennis ? « Reply #477 on: October 12, 2013, 01:14 PM »
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Innocent till proved guilty say I.

That's the stance I'm now taking. I do like Rafa.
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Re: Doping in Tennis ? « Reply #478 on: October 12, 2013, 02:24 PM »
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That's the stance I'm now taking. I do like Rafa.

Same for me, some of the assumptions on here w/o evidence is wild.
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Re: Doping in Tennis ? « Reply #479 on: October 12, 2013, 03:16 PM »
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@Grabcopy
Why "disrespectful"? Should he not be honest?
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