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Re: Milos Raonic « Reply #180 on: April 30, 2012, 10:08 AM »
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Christ, bit of an over-reaction to one tournament.

If that's the case why has Isner never won Wimbledon? Or Karlovic?

Raonic is not consistent enough, right here, right now, to win a Slam. Andy was getting the measure of him by the end of the 2nd set. There will be games where his serve goes missing. Think back to Murray vs Isner at the USO last year. There will be chances for the opponents, and the better players will take those. Even if he plays to the standard he has this week over three sets and dumps out a top player, the chances are slim of him being able to do it again two days later against the next top player.

Christ, would people have been making these assumptions after he lost to Montanes in Monte Carlo? He may well win a Slam (most likely Wimbledon, if any) in a few years time but the sudden predictions of world #1 and multi-Slam winner by some on here based on beating an off-form Murray on his least-favourite surface is very, very fickle.

It's not just one match. I think you'll find that Milos is a player whose time is coming. He's one of the year's form players, with two titles and a 21-5 record that's as good as almost anyone.

Saying that, I loathe and detest his game with every fibre of my being.
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Re: Milos Raonic « Reply #181 on: April 30, 2012, 10:27 AM »
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It's not just one match. I think you'll find that Milos is a player whose time is coming. He's one of the year's form players, with two titles and a 21-5 record that's as good as almost anyone.

Saying that, I loathe and detest his game with every fibre of my being.

Agreed, ATP matchfacts for this year show Raonic is top of the list for service games won (93%), 1st serve points won, aces (381 in 26 matches), and break points saved. He comes 2nd on 2nd serve points won.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/MatchFacts.aspx - see service game leaders.

I also see he's moved to no 8 in the Race to London rankings.

Will have to hope that players learn how to deal with his serve.
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Re: Milos Raonic « Reply #182 on: April 30, 2012, 01:50 PM »
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I love his game!!! I've been watching all his matches since age 19 and his game has really improved esp. in return of serve which I'm glad about. If Isner could improve his all-round game then so can Milos.
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Re: Milos Raonic « Reply #183 on: April 30, 2012, 06:59 PM »
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Bodo seems to like Milos (full article here http://blogs.tennis.com/tennisworld/)

"And that's one of the most convincing things about this 6'5" power server. He plays pretty much the same, aggressive way on every surface, and at his best he can make the differences between them trivial."
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Re: Milos Raonic « Reply #184 on: April 30, 2012, 07:02 PM »
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Clay will be a friend to Milos as it all allows him more time to set up his footwork for his forehand.
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Re: Milos Raonic « Reply #185 on: April 30, 2012, 07:17 PM »
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It's not just one match. I think you'll find that Milos is a player whose time is coming. He's one of the year's form players, with two titles and a 21-5 record that's as good as almost anyone.

Saying that, I loathe and detest his game with every fibre of my being.
Yes but unbreakable? No-one's unbreakable. To win a Slam he would have to win 7 matches, at least 21 sets. He is going to have to face (short of some bizarre circumstance) at least two of Djokovic, Nadal, Murray and Federer. He may have a killer serve and massive forehand but he's not going to be unbeatable every service game. As proven against Murray this week. Now okay, he did break Murray before-hand and was still able to take the set. But if he can't keep it up over two sets, how's he going to do it over 3-5? Over seven matches?

I can definitely see him winning a Slam one day. But not this year.

As for his record, as amazing as it is, who has he actually beaten? Murray and Tipsarevic are the only names of note that come into my head. He lost to Melzer and Hewitt even. He's done very well but he has only faced any of the top 7 three times (losing in 3 to Federer, in 2 to Ferrer and beating Murray (on his least favourite surface) in 2). I'm not denying that it's a great record so far, but it's to be taken with a pinch of salt.
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Re: Milos Raonic « Reply #186 on: April 30, 2012, 07:22 PM »
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^ Yeah, I agree MH... he's not Slam material yet.  But oh.. the possibilities that lie ahead.....
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Re: Milos Raonic « Reply #187 on: April 30, 2012, 08:43 PM »
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Yes, I don't think he'll win a slam this year. He's still got a ways to go yet. But the signs are all good.

Thanks for the link to Bodo's blog btw.
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Re: Milos Raonic « Reply #188 on: April 30, 2012, 09:08 PM »
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Yes but unbreakable? No-one's unbreakable. To win a Slam he would have to win 7 matches, at least 21 sets. He is going to have to face (short of some bizarre circumstance) at least two of Djokovic, Nadal, Murray and Federer. He may have a killer serve and massive forehand but he's not going to be unbeatable every service game. As proven against Murray this week. Now okay, he did break Murray before-hand and was still able to take the set. But if he can't keep it up over two sets, how's he going to do it over 3-5? Over seven matches?

I can definitely see him winning a Slam one day. But not this year.

As for his record, as amazing as it is, who has he actually beaten? Murray and Tipsarevic are the only names of note that come into my head. He lost to Melzer and Hewitt even. He's done very well but he has only faced any of the top 7 three times (losing in 3 to Federer, in 2 to Ferrer and beating Murray (on his least favourite surface) in 2). I'm not denying that it's a great record so far, but it's to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Good post. There's always this huge hype around Milos as seen last year as well and though some people don't like his style of play including myself, a lot of the people are under the impression as if he's going to take the world by storm and it's mainly because of his big serve. And now that he's gone and beaten Murray, this all confirms to all that when in reality, it's not all it's made out to be and one can definitely look into this post of yours if they want to dig deep. But because Sampras was very successful with his big serve and people somehow see him as the 2nd Sampras (could be most because of Raonic himself as Pete is his idol) coming, those who never liked Sampras are basically freaking out at the “rise” of Raonic. On the other hand, I've noticed that most of the Federer fans are in favour of Milos and that’s mostly because they need someone to stop Nadal and I don't think they feel Nole is enough to stop him and Andy is still looking into things.

But don’t say though that he won’t win a Slam this year. No one saw Sampras winning his first Slam in 1990 when he was still 19 but he did, so anything is possible - though I admit, it will be hard to get by two of the top players, so things will have to fall in his favour. Also, I don’t feel his frame of mind is there yet but I do think he will eventually end up winning a Slam – just how many, I am not sure. It all depends on the circumstances he will have going forward and who will be the players in his time. I’ve noticed he’s quite ambitious, so that ought to take him far especially with the two major weapons he has. Sampras was a mental giant and I am not sure if Raonic is going to be anything like that, though I am sure he wants to be.
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Re: Milos Raonic « Reply #189 on: April 30, 2012, 09:26 PM »
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Milos' hero is Sampras and he's watched hundreds of hours' worth of his matches and emulates him a lot in his own style. I hated Sampras, gotta say. But Milos I like only coz he's Cdn. If he was from the states probably not so much. Not at all. lol
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Re: Milos Raonic « Reply #190 on: May 07, 2012, 10:19 PM »
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Milos and Nalby tomorrow around 3 ish local time.
Winner to meet Fed.
I'm IN!!!!!!!
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Re: Milos Raonic « Reply #191 on: May 07, 2012, 10:33 PM »
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I hope they show this on sportsnet. They are showing the tennis from 7 a.m. onwards. Fingers crossed.
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Re: Milos Raonic « Reply #192 on: May 07, 2012, 10:35 PM »
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Yeah.. saw that Rositak... they'd better, or else I demand a refund on my subscription!
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Re: Milos Raonic « Reply #193 on: May 08, 2012, 07:27 AM »
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Sorry Raonic fans, can't stand Feddybear's personality but love his tennis and would always hope he wins against these massive servers.
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Re: Milos Raonic « Reply #194 on: May 08, 2012, 03:30 PM »
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Well Raonic v Federer- yay Should be a great match whatever happens!
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