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Re: Vliegen vs Nadal « Reply #15 on: April 20, 2006, 10:21 PM »
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yeahhh he looked like a grt player ..... im goin 2 keep my eye on him and Lisnard ( sorry but he is good)

If Murray plays Lisnard on a hard court then Lisnard will have no chance 6-0 6-0 Very Happy, Murray would of won if he didn't have cramp so I hope they play again and I hope Murray white washes him Very Happy.
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Re: Vliegen vs Nadal « Reply #16 on: April 20, 2006, 10:52 PM »
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hummm wlel considering Murray thinks clay is his best surface ... i dunno if it will be that easy ,, did u watch the game ?? he was a good player
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Re: Vliegen vs Nadal « Reply #17 on: April 21, 2006, 01:54 AM »
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Lisnard is no walkover. Murray didn't play his best tennis though......... poor.
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Re: Vliegen vs Nadal « Reply #18 on: April 21, 2006, 05:21 PM »
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^I agree with this. I think Lisnard was lucky he got Andy on a bad day. Andy was all over his serve like a rash and weak on his own. If he's been more solid on his own serve it would have been a whitewash. Lisnard didn't win that game as much as Andy through it away!
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Re: Vliegen vs Nadal « Reply #19 on: April 21, 2006, 06:39 PM »
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i was watching nadal 2 day well played  =D> and i also watched Fernando Gonzarlez  =D> =D> he played amazing  and he has Federer nxt come on Fernando
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Re: Vliegen vs Nadal « Reply #20 on: April 21, 2006, 08:51 PM »
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bounce_everyone bounce_everyone bounce_everyone bounce_everyone
Well done Rafa!! WOOOOO!!

Good to know he played well Wink He pretty much always does! Wink
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Re: Vliegen vs Nadal « Reply #21 on: April 21, 2006, 08:53 PM »
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Yeah, Vliegen's good, although obviously not as good as Nadal Smile Stil, he did well to get this far, and he's been playing well all season.
He seems like a nice guy, though he is extremely against doping. Off course, that's a very good thing, but he thinks everyone like Rusedski, Chela, Coria and so on should be banned for the rest of their lives. He gets very worked up about it and said he sees it as an extra motivation when he has to play against any of those guys, as he thinks they're all cheats.
Of course, cheats should be banned, but to give everyone a lifetime ban for any doping offence or suspected doping offence seems a bit harsh, as you're not always sure they did anything wrong in the first place.

I totally agree. But I like his attitude.
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Re: Vliegen vs Nadal « Reply #22 on: April 21, 2006, 09:06 PM »
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hummm wlel considering Murray thinks clay is his best surface ... i dunno if it will be that easy ,, did u watch the game ?? he was a good player

He was good but Murray was better than him in the first two sets, in the 3rd set he did improve alittle bit but that was due to the fact Murray couldn't walk so he thought ok I have a shot at this and ended up winning the match, I say he will beat him on a hard court because they are not as tough on your legs and Lisnard is probably not good on hard courts abit like Nadal on grass (which I'm sure he will get better this year Wink) Nadal that is, so to sum up on what im saying is the reason he won was  because Murray's legs was gone and they was playing on a tough court which takes alot out of you also Murray didn't have much match practise due to sickness and injury. Thats why I think it will be much easier for Murray the next time they play thats if they play again.
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Re: Vliegen vs Nadal « Reply #23 on: April 21, 2006, 09:39 PM »
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yeah i no what u r sayin murraymad but u cant take it away form lisnard he was so much better than Andy on the day and i dont like saying it but itd the truth .. and u can say o he had cramp but that is down to him and obviously he cant be the best player if he gets teired that easy Lianard looked like he could keep running round for another 3hrs and if Andy was better in the 1st 2 sets ... y didnt he win them both ??  i dont like saying it but He wasnt the best player on tha day . yeah hard court may be different but i aint seen lisnard play on hard
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Re: Vliegen vs Nadal « Reply #24 on: April 21, 2006, 10:01 PM »
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Rochelle sorry but I disagree he was the fittest on the day but not the best, Andy had the chance to serve out the match but relaxed too much because he thought he was safe, I thought Andy was more intelligent on the shots, he was more agressive on shots and he got Lisnard frustrated, all Lisnard had to do at the end was put the ball into play because Andy obviously couldn't walk and he still couldn't do that, andy was still winning points with no legs really, It was sort of a dayjavou because the exact thing  happened in Wimbledon against Nalbandian, I thought Murray was the better man throughout the match then he just got cramp and there is nothing you can do about that. So what your saying that Lisnard was the better man on that day, no he was the luckiest man on that day.
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Re: Vliegen vs Nadal « Reply #25 on: April 21, 2006, 10:12 PM »
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we can agree to diagree   hug,,,,, i think Lisanrd was better man on the day not saying overall coz of course Murray is betetr overall
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Re: Vliegen vs Nadal « Reply #26 on: April 21, 2006, 10:23 PM »
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we can agree to diagree   hug,,,,, i think Lisanrd was better man on the day not saying overall coz of course Murray is betetr overall

 hug no worries opinions are opinions, I wouldn't want people agreeing with me when it's not how they feel, honesty is the best policy Wink.
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Re: Vliegen vs Nadal « Reply #27 on: April 21, 2006, 10:24 PM »
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i agree with that one murraymad
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Re: Vliegen vs Nadal « Reply #28 on: April 22, 2006, 11:54 AM »
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I agree with you murraymad, i think that Lisnard was lucky. He played well, I'll give him that, a slightly lesser opponent and andy would have been able to bluff his way through but Andy was not producing good tennis. He had bizarre shot selection. Using drop shots far too much and inappropriately in order to try and shorten the points and what he ended up doing was lengthening the game. His serve was weak although his attack was solid. when Andy was behind and he concentrated he produced tennis that laughed at lisnard but when he relaxed Lisnard saw it and took advantage. I think Fleming said in the commentating that Andy's should have controlled his body language a little better cause everyone could tell exactly what he was thinking. Lisnard was clever and lucky on the day. but he had a nothing serve that Andy was all over and a shocking backhand. It was frankly disappointing that Andy didn't close him out early in the 2nd.

Oh and the point about Lisnard being able to run around all day, in a post match interview Lisnard said he was glad he was able to take the game when he did and that Murray suffered from cramp because he was beginning to feel it a bit and didn't fancy the tie break.
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Re: Vliegen vs Nadal « Reply #29 on: April 22, 2006, 06:56 PM »
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aww thanks for that ljsmall i didnt hear the interview ... but from wat i saw i felt he looked that way
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