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Bevc
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Re: 9/11 - the truth?
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2006, 12:33:27 AM »
Quote from: top_spin on September 06, 2006, 10:46:29 PM
Thanks a lot for the link Mark.
Seen stuff like that before but it was a great watch.
Lots of reasons why it could have been an internal setup - the lawn, mobile phones, shape of the builiding (rocket?) etc etc.
And the lack of debris!
The 'plane' hit the strongest side of the building, was relatively empty, left a perfect hole but completely burnt up into thin air!
Downloading this now to my sons computer - faster!
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davew
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Re: 9/11 - the truth?
« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2006, 08:52:44 AM »
Flight 77 crashed nowhere near the Pentagon, in most photos taken soon after the attack,
no 757 wings are visible ANYWHERE
Witnesses at the time said they saw what appeared to be 'a small plane' but a few days later, most people said they saw a Boeing 757
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Re: 9/11 - the truth?
« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2006, 01:36:10 PM »
i would just like to point out that not all americans are idiots... just most of them...
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Re: 9/11 - the truth?
« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2006, 09:48:48 PM »
Quote from: davew on September 07, 2006, 08:52:44 AM
Flight 77 crashed nowhere near the Pentagon, in most photos taken soon after the attack,
no 757 wings are visible ANYWHERE
Witnesses at the time said they saw what appeared to be 'a small plane' but a few days later, most people said they saw a Boeing 757
Ah, the power of suggestion.
If you thought you saw something like a plane, then you are told by the authorities that it was a 757,in your mind that's what it becomes.
I'm not saying there definitely is a conspiracy, but it's certainly made me wonder?
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Re: 9/11 - the truth?
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2006, 10:02:30 PM »
Really good programme about 9/11 on BBC1. It's been interrupted for the news.
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Re: 9/11 - the truth?
« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2006, 11:13:01 PM »
Quote from: Woos on September 07, 2006, 09:48:48 PM
Ah, the power of suggestion.
If you thought you saw something like a plane, then you are told by the authorities that it was a 757,in your mind that's what it becomes.
Spot on
It's also very possible the government had agents on the ground acting as witnesses.
[ Last edit by Mark September 07, 2006, 11:16:43 PM ]
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Re: 9/11 - the truth?
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2006, 08:46:29 AM »
I think the american government thought that if they said "This is what happened..." people would believe it without checking to see if it was true...
And anyway, a good pilot wouldn't let his plane fly into a building just because a hijacker (Who couldn't fly the plane anyway) said so...
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Re: 9/11 - the truth?
« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2006, 10:09:05 AM »
There are more holes in that documentary than a sieve.
Sorry, but just like the rubbish that has been published decrying the French documentary makers who caught the first plane crashing, it doesn't wash.
There have been conspiracy theories abounding over ever major tragedy, but to suggest the American Government planned 911 is ludicrous. So many people would have to have known it could never have been kept a secret.Eye witness accounts are notoriously inaccurate. They have been discredited time and time again in various investigations. Interesting article on that phenomena
HERE
Much as I loathe Bush and his ghastly colleagues, this WAS an act of terrorism. After all it wasn't the first attempt or "success" by Al Qaeda to murder innocent people. But for some reason people would rather believe half baked theories than accept there is someone out there whose sole aim is to destroy the West and its culture.
Anyway, today is the anniversary of that dreadful day, so RIP all those who died, all those whose lives were changed for ever through being widowed, orphaned or maimed on 9/11.
I can remember it and what I was doing as clearly as if it was a few hours ago. I just sat and watched events unfold with an air of unreality about it all. You literally couldn't believe what was happening.
Bit like Diana's death, Mandela walking to freedom, the Berlin Wall coming down and Kennedy's assassination. Truly days that changed the World.
(Although the death toll pales into insignificance compared to the nigh on 3m people killed in what has been called
The African Holocaust
i.e the continuing war in the DRof Congo and it's surrounding nations.)
But that isn't newsworthy apparently. You have to hunt for info on that tragedy.
Lest we forget, ordinary people just like you and me were murdered or had their lives ruined by the attack.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/lists/by-name/index.html
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Re: 9/11 - the truth?
« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2006, 11:17:31 AM »
I agree they were acts of real terrorism and I also agree that documentary is not fully researched and there are a lot of questions Loose Change have to answer for as well.
However I do think the US government are hiding something from us about 9/11 and I still believe that it is very possible that they allowed the terrorists attacks to happen. I think suggesting they planned it is maybe going a little too far but I doubt it would be that difficult to keep secret their delibirate lack of intervention of the lead up and attack on 9/11.
[ Last edit by Mark September 11, 2006, 11:20:40 AM ]
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Re: 9/11 - the truth?
« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2006, 02:20:52 PM »
Hollywood actor
Charlie Sheen
says there is 911 cover up and apparently he may even star in a
911 conspiracy movie
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[ Last edit by Mark September 26, 2006, 02:43:53 PM ]
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Re: 9/11 - the truth?
« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2006, 02:26:56 PM »
83% of viewers beleive there is some info the government is withholding?? wow....
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Re: 9/11 - the truth?
« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2006, 02:31:03 PM »
Oh FFS, George Bush is not a dictator.
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Re: 9/11 - the truth?
« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2006, 02:32:15 PM »
I believe that Bush and his colleagues knew about a planned attack. America had so much to gain from it all. By that I mean the war for oil. I also think what Mark is saying about Iran being the next target is very possible.
If Saddam could be found down a hole, in such a short time, then how is it possible that a 6ft 6in, old man on a camel, can still be at large. America is the most powerful country in the world and Bush the most powerful man in the world, how on earth did he get elected and then retain it?
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Re: 9/11 - the truth?
« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2006, 02:43:38 PM »
Quote from: scotsman75 on September 26, 2006, 02:32:15 PM
how on earth did he get elected and then retain it?
Shocking isn't it?
(I've edited my original post and put up a different second video - it actually has Charlie Sheen talking about it.)
[ Last edit by Mark September 26, 2006, 02:46:37 PM ]
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Re: 9/11 - the truth?
« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2006, 02:45:28 PM »
Because he has excellent speech writers and his policies appeal to a vast swathe of the Mid West.
Thank God he can't run again.
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