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What's better?
Credit Card.
1 (9.1%)
Debit Card.
4 (36.4%)
Neither - they both have advantages
5 (45.5%)
I'm what they call an "ignoramus".
1 (9.1%)
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Mark
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Re: Credit vs Debit
« Reply #80 on: February 01, 2008, 04:22:07 PM »
Noob questions...
Quote from: KitKat on February 01, 2008, 03:44:00 PM
I got one in December that's interest free for 15 months
What's the benefit of that?
Quote from: alc.aka.amyc on February 01, 2008, 03:58:45 PM
I thought I'd keep it just to get credit history.
What's that?
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Re: Credit vs Debit
« Reply #81 on: February 01, 2008, 04:29:50 PM »
Quote from: Mark on February 01, 2008, 04:22:07 PM
Noob questions...
What's the benefit of that?
The benefit of interest free is that the money you would normally spend, actually sits in your bank or savings account until you pay off the credit card (instead of when you buy the product).
If you stick it in a decent account, you get about 45p per £100 per month.
So if you put £500 on a normal card every month, you make £2.25 free (£27 per year)
If you have a 12-month introductory interest free period, then you don't need to pay anything off for 12 months (rather than the normal 1)
If you can avoid paying that £500 for 12 months, then that's £27 per £500 spent (or about £175 in the year!!).
But
then you have to be able to pay the whole balance off (in this example, £6,000) at the end of the period.
Otherwise the interest you pay the credit card company swallows up the profit you've made.
Quote from: Mark on February 01, 2008, 04:22:07 PM
What's that?
There are credit agencies which collect details of what you pay and don't pay.
When you apply for credit in the future (bank accounts, other cards, loans, mortgages, etc.), the lender will check you out with a credit agency (there are three main ones in the UK).
If you have a record of paying things off, it's better than having no record at all.
Funnily enough, for credit card applications, they actually favour people who miss occasional payments since that'll make them more money (they're businesses, after all).
Does that make sense?
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Re: Credit vs Debit
« Reply #82 on: February 01, 2008, 04:35:27 PM »
Thanks, I understood everything apart from this,
Quote from: measdale on February 01, 2008, 04:29:50 PM
then that's £27 per £500 spent
What do you mean
spent
? I thought you were just talking about money that comes into your account every month that you don't need to touch because of the 12month offer. I understand that you get interest for this when if you didn't have a credit card, you would get much less because you would probably need to actually spend constantly.
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Re: Credit vs Debit
« Reply #83 on: February 01, 2008, 04:40:05 PM »
Quote from: Mark on February 01, 2008, 04:35:27 PM
Thanks, I understood everything apart from this,
What do you mean
spent
? I thought you were just talking about money that comes into your account every month that you don't need to touch because of the 12month offer. I understand that you get interest for this when if you didn't have a credit card, you would get much less because you would need to use constantly.
If you have 12 month interest free, and you spend £500 in January then you can leave it on the card until the following December (ie. not pay it off).
That means you have that £500 in your savings account of choice from January to December (instead of it being spent in January).
So you make about £2.25 from it each month, ie. £27 in the year.
The £500 you spend in February, you get 11 months for (ie. about £24.75), and so on.
In a year, that accumulates to about £175 (I think).
So actually the "£27 per £500 spent" only really refers to £500 at the beginning of the term. Sorry if I didn't make sense.
[and by "spent", I meant "put on the card" - technically you've still spent it, but the money's come out your credit card account rather than your operating account]
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Re: Credit vs Debit
« Reply #84 on: February 01, 2008, 04:47:44 PM »
I understood that, I just thought you were saying something else because the use of the word "spent" confused me as I was thinking "none of this is actually being spent". I fully understand now, thanks for helping a newbie
So yeah, that's a great benefit for a CC but it's only a one-off I assume.
[ Last edit by Mark February 01, 2008, 04:49:24 PM ]
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Re: Credit vs Debit
« Reply #85 on: February 01, 2008, 05:13:35 PM »
Quote from: Mark on February 01, 2008, 04:47:44 PM
I understood that, I just thought you were saying something else because the use of the word "spent" confused me as I was thinking "none of this is actually being spent". I fully understand now, thanks for helping a newbie
So yeah, that's a great benefit for a CC but it's only a one-off I assume.
As but that's where changing cards comes in.
You get a different card, that offers 0% for X Months and 0% balance transfers and a BIGGER limit. So, you keep saving money in your account and use this new card next year, by transfering the old balance to it...... that way you make even more interest!
OR
You pay of the balance of the old one, and start the process again in January with a new 0% card. Up to you.
The first option means you can get a bigger balance in your account to make interest on (i.e. more than £175) , so will make more money. But means you have more to pay more off at the end.
The second means you will make another £175 in the following year. (assuming interest is the same on your current/savings account)
Companies charge a balance transfer fee of about 2-3% of the balance. So if you transfered your £6000 from year 1, to another card with 0% for 12 months, then you would pay (for 2.5%) £150. Which would be most of your interest. Overall profit would be £25 BUT if you keep this cycle up til you max your limit then you could make a little bit of money.....
Maybe.
It's generally just good to put off payments, especailly after xmas.
However, you can only get a card with a large limit with a good credit history and usually a house! My limit is £500. So it's just extra spenging money really!
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Re: Credit vs Debit
« Reply #86 on: February 01, 2008, 05:21:26 PM »
I actually make most money from cashback (2% on all supermarket and petrol spend with my barclaycard), which comes in at about £200 per annum without any extra effort from me. Add the interest which I make on the money and it's an okay freebie.
(my main card limit's £9000, so the numbers can become quite noticeable).
Again, though, it only works if you can definitely pay at the end!!
Incidentally, playing one credit card off against another and postponing payment while raising your limit is known as "tarting" (ie. from being a "credit card tart").
[ Last edit by measdale February 01, 2008, 05:22:37 PM ]
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Re: Credit vs Debit
« Reply #87 on: February 01, 2008, 05:26:47 PM »
Quote from: measdale on February 01, 2008, 05:21:26 PM
I actually make most money from cashback (2% on all supermarket and petrol spend with my barclaycard), which comes in at about £200 per annum without any extra effort from me. Add the interest which I make on the money and it's an okay freebie.
(my main card limit's £9000, so the numbers can become quite noticeable).
Again, though, it only works if you can definitely pay at the end!!
Incidentally, playing one credit card off against another and postponing payment while raising your limit is known as "tarting" (ie. from being a "credit card tart").
Didn't know that, shall bear it in mind. I don't have the collateral to be doing that yet though!
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Re: Credit vs Debit
« Reply #88 on: February 01, 2008, 06:59:14 PM »
See this is just confusing
After I've used my card a few times and paid it off its going straight into my desk draw and only coming out when I really really need it.
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