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What's better?
Credit Card.
1 (9.1%)
Debit Card.
4 (36.4%)
Neither - they both have advantages
5 (45.5%)
I'm what they call an "ignoramus".
1 (9.1%)
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nkp2
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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2008, 11:24:52 PM »
Quote from: Mark on January 30, 2008, 11:21:08 PM
An emergency card for if you completely run out of money? I have a visa electron with a small amount of money in and have the rest of my money in my debit card account and savers. Therefore my visa electron is sort of an emergency card
Credit cards have amazing insurance if u use them to buy faulty products etc etc.
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2008, 11:26:08 PM »
Quote from: nkp2 on January 30, 2008, 11:24:52 PM
Credit cards have amazing insurance if u use them to buy faulty products etc etc.
Yeah I know but I don't think that benefit justifies having one when you consider all the disadvantages. I've had to return many items and never have I got into problems because I paid via debit card. It's only going to happen rarely where you would need insurance from your credit card. Like if you purchase something from another country and they piss off suddenly or a fraudster gets you.
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2008, 11:30:55 PM »
Quote from: nkp2 on January 30, 2008, 11:24:52 PM
Credit cards have amazing insurance if u use them to buy faulty products etc etc.
Yup that too.
But if you have a large income and a credit card with 0% interest on purchases surely you could pay for a holiday on a credit card and then the money for said holiday could sit in an isa and make you cash until the holiday has to be paid for.
My savings do sit in my isa and as such make me more money than if they were simply in a current account (or at least they did until I used them to pay my fees). But if, like I said above, I was to need something in an emergency my debit card wouldn't cover it so I'd put it on the credit card then use the money in the isa to pay it off.
It you're sensible a credit card can be a shrewd way to manage your money.
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2008, 11:33:37 PM »
I use credit card for most things.
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2008, 11:38:28 PM »
I can see the benefits both ways. But it just depends on whether you can trust yourself to be sensible. Keeping your money in your own bank account for the longest time possible is always going to be of the best benifit to your bank balance. So long as you don't pay out higher interest than you make.
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« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2008, 11:50:05 PM »
Quote from: ljsmall on January 30, 2008, 11:30:55 PM
It you're sensible a credit card can be a shrewd way to manage your money.
I find my credit cards very useful... gives me a bit of extra flexibility with my finances...
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« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2008, 12:36:08 AM »
I use a credit card for a few reasons:
1) the benefits, like air miles, travel insurance, problems with items you've bought (especially over the net)
2) no hassle of an overdraft, with associated fees, so I'm never checking how much money I have in my account
3) improves my credit rating which could help me in the future to take out loans, or to buy a car
I know someone who set up a direct debit to pay off his credit card bill, so if you can't be bothered for the hassle of having to make payments, you won't have any problems, and you'll still have all these advantages...
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« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2008, 01:03:52 AM »
Quote from: Yamor on January 31, 2008, 12:36:08 AM
I know someone who set up a direct debit to pay off his credit card bill
Oh that's interesting to know
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« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2008, 04:36:17 AM »
Debit cards are hard to come by down here - everyone has EFTPOS cards but are no good when you want to buy things over the phone/internet. I think my bank is the first to have an actual debit card and I only got that towards the end of last year, so getting a credit card was useful for us and always good to have in an emergency, especially when hubby thought that he'd have to fly home at short notice coz his dad was quite seriously ill recently but I do see the pitfalls in having one.
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« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2008, 04:38:16 AM »
Quote from: AL1874 on January 30, 2008, 09:38:26 AM
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« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2008, 08:20:55 AM »
You had better not let Karin hear you saying that she might get the wrong impression
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« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2008, 10:39:23 AM »
Quote from: Mark on January 30, 2008, 11:24:30 PM
I just don't understand why people who have high incomes use them when at least with a debit card you don't have to remember repayments
(I only have a middling income, but ...)
You get an average of six weeks interest free on CC payments, which means six weeks free extra interest on your cash.
There are CCs out there with cashback or other rewards (eg. Tesco, airmiles), which means they directly save you money.
CCs are accepted in far more places worldwide than debit cards, so they're more flexible [though I use cash for short (less than four week) trips].
If you need emergency money (eg. to buy a new car, major house repairs, etc.) then it's an instant way to pay for a multi-thousand pound bill. You can sort out a loan to cover it, if necessary, in the following weeks.
Most allow you to set up automatic payments of the complete balance so there's little risk (it's almost twenty years since I last didn't pay off my CC balances).
They give better purchase insurance than debit cards.
... so I use credit cards whenever I can.
The big downside of CCs is that they push up the cost of everything, since retailers have to pay a hefty percentage of the transaction to the card company and they sign agreements which limit how much they can claim back.
ie. a massive amount of the UK's annual spend goes straight to the banks and credit card companies.
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« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2008, 10:40:39 AM »
Quote from: AL1874 on January 31, 2008, 08:20:55 AM
You had better not let Karin hear you saying that she might get the wrong impression
And who's Karin?
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« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2008, 10:49:18 AM »
When you talk about using it abroad, is there a difference of usability with me ordering something from an American website and me going into an American shop and buying it? Because I've never had problems ordering things from other countries online with my debit card.
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« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2008, 10:57:19 AM »
Quote from: Bevc on January 31, 2008, 10:40:39 AM
And who's Karin?
A German Frau who gives me unfettered access to her bits
On the point of Credit / Debit cards.
A lot of german Hotels / Shops do not accept Credit cards because of the additional charges they have to pay.
Debt cards are usually fine but it is better if they have an “EC electronic Cash” branding.
[ Last edit by AL1874 January 31, 2008, 11:02:45 AM ]
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« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2008, 11:01:05 AM »
Quote from: Mark on January 31, 2008, 10:49:18 AM
When you talk about using it abroad, is there a difference of usability with me ordering something from an American website and me going into an American shop and buying it? Because I've never had problems ordering things from other countries online with my debit card.
I wasn't thinking about the US, but in much of Asia, sub-Saharan Africa and S.America most outlets barely accept visa and mastercard, never mind their evil twins electron and maestro.
I'd have thought most outlets in the US accept either.
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« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2008, 11:21:58 AM »
Fair enough although I would assume that flexibility would only be beneficial to the vast minority of users.
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nkp2
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« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2008, 11:31:58 AM »
Quote from: Mark on January 30, 2008, 11:24:30 PM
Oh I see.
I just don't understand why people who have high incomes use them when at least with a debit card you don't have to remember repayments
Because people have alot of thing to pay for.... i.e. you don't own a house do you? Have your own car? Credit limits can be huge for high earners and people with families often need to buy or pay for things now before pay day. Yes, they are risky things to have, but at the same time very useful.
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« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2008, 11:46:37 AM »
Quote from: Mark on January 31, 2008, 11:21:58 AM
Fair enough although I would assume that flexibility would only be beneficial to the vast minority of users.
I was just listing the benefits, not saying each one applied to everyone!
(oh .. almost forgot ..
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Quote from: nkp2 on January 31, 2008, 11:31:58 AM
Credit limits can be huge for high earners and people with families often need to buy or pay for things now before pay day.
Not just huge for high earners. Through the 80s and early 90s, increases in credit limits were pretty automatic if you kept the same card.
My retired mother with zero income but still (I believe) using a Barclaycard from the late 70s has a credit limit of around £25k,
much higher than mine and I have an income!
Finally - which is better depends on your circumstances.
If I wasn't able to pay off the CC every month, then a debit card backed up by a loan would be better (unless you can wangle an interest-free period, and
know
you can pay it off at the end).
So the poll needs to have an option "depends".
[ Last edit by measdale January 31, 2008, 11:51:46 AM ]
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« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2008, 12:11:48 PM »
Quote from: measdale on January 31, 2008, 11:46:37 AM
(unless you can wangle an interest-free period, and
know
you can pay it off at the end).
Or you find yourself another company that'll offer you one with a 0% on balance transfers period.
[ Last edit by ljsmall January 31, 2008, 12:12:02 PM ]
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