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Re: Cricket Thread
« Reply #840 on: March 16, 2008, 12:28:21 AM »
You would think it's too big a task. But there can't have been many teams who have had 2 full days in good batting conditions to get it.
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« Reply #841 on: March 16, 2008, 07:55:34 AM »
Well, my
are shot - that wicket of Oram's couldn't have come at a better time
Some clumsy play from the fielders today - how many drops were there?
Let's hope that our bowlers come out firing on all cylinders tomorrow and that the fielders back them up
The Kiwis are 242/6 with 196 runs to get to win.
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« Reply #842 on: March 16, 2008, 08:06:55 AM »
Massive wicket getting Oram right at the end. That was the partnership we needed to break. Oram will be absolutely livid as there was only 1 more ball after that before coming off for bad light!
196 to win with their last 2 recognised batsman in. This next wicket is massive now. If McCullum gets going again tomorrow and Vettori gets himself in, they'll have every chance of winning. We have to break this partnership early and if we do, we'll win.
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« Reply #843 on: March 17, 2008, 01:40:59 AM »
England win!
Getting Vettori's wicket first thing this morning was crucial! Brendan McCullum was always going to find it hard to hang in at the end, but he put up a bloody good fight
A bit of fielding practice these next few days wouldn't go amiss
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« Reply #844 on: March 17, 2008, 06:33:57 AM »
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« Reply #845 on: March 22, 2008, 12:12:16 AM »
Absolutely pathetic. 36/4 on the first morning on a magnificant pitch for batting on (the pitch where both sides scored 340 in the ODI series).
So basically we now need hundreds from Pietersen, Collingwood, and Ambrose to stay in the match.
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« Reply #846 on: March 22, 2008, 01:04:31 AM »
its not looking good at all is it
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Re: Cricket Thread
« Reply #847 on: March 22, 2008, 01:33:49 AM »
Quote from: invisibleman18 on March 22, 2008, 12:12:16 AM
Absolutely pathetic. 36/4 on the first morning on a magnificant pitch for batting on (the pitch where both sides scored 340 in the ODI series).
So basically we now need hundreds from Pietersen, Collingwood, and Ambrose to stay in the match.
Well Pietersen's half way there.
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« Reply #848 on: March 22, 2008, 04:55:47 AM »
Pietersen did get there, but there's been no resistence from anyone else. So on a flat pitch where there hasn't actually been a result in a test since 1996 and only 1 side has ever won a test there (!), we have been thrashed on the first day.
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« Reply #849 on: March 22, 2008, 06:22:59 AM »
Pietersen out for 129 and a defiant 42 not out from Broad has given the innings a bit of respectability. 240-7 at the close. It's supposed to be a 500+ wicket so we'll be at least 200odd runs short of what we should have made, but at least a couple of players have given us something to bowl with. Hopefully Broad and Sidebottom can stick around for a little while tomorrow morning and if we can get close to 300, that wouldn't be a bad recovery from 4-3!
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« Reply #850 on: March 22, 2008, 10:55:39 PM »
253 all out
Not looking good for our guys
Pete (friend) says he'll lend his services when he goes down tomorrow
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« Reply #851 on: March 22, 2008, 11:03:07 PM »
Was hoping Broad could get us a bit closer to 280-300 but alas out first ball of the day, which of course meant we didn't even last 20 minutes this morning.
And suddenly Sidebottom has them 1-1 in the first over!
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« Reply #852 on: March 23, 2008, 02:46:19 AM »
Absolutely incredible!
At 101-1 it looked like we were going to be batting on day 4 needing 250 odd to make them bat again. But Sidebottom has skittled them again and it's 138-7 and we are well in this match now!
6-33 so far for Sidebottom. He's been absolutely amazing on this whole tour. 22 wickets now in the test series I think. Amazing story. Played 1 test in 2001 and didn't take a wicket and was not really heard of again until he played his 2nd test 6 years later in 2007! Now he's pretty much the first name on the team sheet.
He's become this good because he had to go away and learn his trade in county cricket. If you look at someone like Anderson, he's been part of the England setup for years so he's always either 12th man or away on tour. He's hardly played any county cricket - more career ODIs than first class matches highlights this. And in fact I believe he played in the England ODI side before he had played a first class match! He had played just a couple of one day games (and if I remember correctly he was in Australia with an academy squad during the 2002 Ashes tour and an insane amount of injuries led to him being called into the side in the ODI series where he performed well enough to earn a place in the world cup side). Consequently, performances like his 5 wicket bag in the 2nd test are a shock. Usually it's much more like today where he's been smashed for 54 runs from his 7 overs so far. Even players like Hoggard and Harmison, the centrally contracted players. Always away with England so they don't play much county cricket these days and that's probably why those 2 were sh*t in the first test here. Hadn't bowled much for a while. After his 1 test, Sidebottom went away and played 6 full years of county cricket learning how to really bowl at that level , and that may be a major reason why performances like today are becoming expected from him.
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« Reply #853 on: March 23, 2008, 04:10:49 AM »
I agree with all you say, Alex, except the bit about Harmy and Hoggy. They've both (especially Hoggy) served plenty time on the county circuit, and have had no less recent practice then Sidebottom. I think its more likely to be because both are coming back from injury.
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« Reply #854 on: March 23, 2008, 04:48:37 AM »
Yes probably true of Hoggard. Harmison has been quite poor for several years though, and I think he's played his last test for England tbh. Broad has shown plenty of talent and I think he will play a sh*t load of tests for England for a long time to come. There's also Anderson who can be great when on form. Although when off form, he can be quite a liability. Don't forget there's a certain Mr Flintoff making a long awaited comeback and he's aiming to be ready for the return series when NZ go to England this year. Looking at the current 11, perhaps he could come in for Anderson which would improve both our bowling lineup (providing Freddie is 100% fit) and obviously our batting (even if he's 20% fit!).
Not sure what to do with the batting lineup. Obviously Cook, Pietersen and Collingwood are the ones you can't drop. Bell is a bit debateable at the moment although probably can't be dropped either. Unless Strauss makes a hundred in this innings, I'm not sure there's much point persisting with him beyond this series. That makes Shah the obvious candidate to come in. Then there's Vaughan. Does he remain, or is it time for Collingwood to captain the test side? Is there another batsman out there capable of batting in the top 3 or 4? The only change I can see for the home NZ series is Shah for Strauss. Oh how I long for Trescothick! Such a tragedy he will probably never play for England again.
With a fully fit Trescothick, Flintoff and Simon Jones, we'd be twice the side we are without a doubt! You just can't replace players of that quality easily.
With NZ at 101-1, who could have believed we would be batting again today?!
18-1 with a 103 run lead. What we need now is the top order to fire for the first time in the series. Similar situation to the 2nd test now. We need Cook and Strauss to bat through to the end of the day today. Then we need to bat all day tomorrow by which time we would have about a 400 run lead. If there are wickets left, have a bash on Tuesday morning (day 4) then give ourselves 5 and a bit sessions to bowl them out.
Another failure for Vaughan in a dismal series for him personally. Have to wonder whether he is becoming a bit past it. Other than his comeback innings against India (I think it was India, not 100% sure on that), he's not had a score of any note since). Such a shame. He was an absolutely incredible batsman at his peak.
This pitch has got nothing at all in it for spinners and Monty only bowled 1 over in that innings. I wonder if perhaps playing Shah instead of him might have been a wise choice for this match. Would have lengthened a short batting lineup and he and Pietersen could have got through a few overs of slow bowling for a bit of variation if needed.
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