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Topic: Dubai 2008 (Read 1693 times)
nkp2
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #80 on: March 08, 2008, 11:38:40 PM »
I could say exactly the same thing.
If that's what you ACTUALLY meant, then you could have put
"I think she means in recent history Neil."
and i would then have said
"Yeah possibly, i'm sure she will tell us
"
Instead, you called me pedantic (an insult if i'm not mistaken) , AND said what "she meant".
So stop with your BS posts and don't lecture me on how to relate when you can't do it either. I have no problem at all relating to people. Besides, who wants to be normal. Try and tell me if I am wrong.
And I like arguments
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Sir Panda
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #81 on: March 08, 2008, 11:42:16 PM »
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Yamor
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #82 on: March 08, 2008, 11:50:03 PM »
I know you like arguments!
I didn't write what you suggested, because it does not interest me what she meant. What i was trying to say was that her point was valid even though the game used to be played differently. But yes, i could still have phrased it better.
I did not mean to call you pedantic (although i'm not saying you're not!), i just said that concerning the debate in this thread, your point was irrelevant, since we are not dealing here with tennis history. So, yes, to bring up tennis history to argue with someones point in a way which is irrelevant, is pedantic.
Anyway, i'd have thought that to your mind pedantic would be a compliment!
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #83 on: March 09, 2008, 11:02:40 AM »
Quote from: nkp2 on March 08, 2008, 11:26:06 PM
the f**king know-it-all, high and mighty
Sounds just like you.
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #84 on: March 09, 2008, 01:51:47 PM »
Quote from: dentie on March 09, 2008, 11:02:40 AM
Sounds just like you.
Sounds like a few people on this site!
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #85 on: March 09, 2008, 06:45:00 PM »
Quote from: nkp2 on March 08, 2008, 11:38:40 PM
And I like arguments
And go out of your way to create them. I mean where exactly did this one come from, really?!
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #86 on: March 09, 2008, 09:15:52 PM »
Sorry that I'm not a complete historian on the game... Jesusss.
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nkp2
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #87 on: March 10, 2008, 12:07:17 AM »
Quote from: ljsmall on March 09, 2008, 06:45:00 PM
And go out of your way to create them. I mean where exactly did this one come from, really?!
From Yamor insulting me and deciding what Sarah meant. And not taking into consideration what I thought she meant. I didn't create it.
Quote from: Sarah_ on March 09, 2008, 09:15:52 PM
Sorry that I'm not a complete historian on the game... Jesusss.
And from this post, it would suggest that Sarah DID NOT mean just in recent history, therefore Yamor, I was correct in what I was saying.
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Yamor
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #88 on: March 10, 2008, 12:11:19 AM »
Like i said before, its irrelevant what she meant. My point was more that her argument still stood whether it was also true in ancient history or not. All i said was that its pedantic to haggle over little points like whether it's always been true in the history of the game or not, since it doesn't have anything to do with the point she was making, which i fully agreed with.
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nkp2
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #89 on: March 10, 2008, 12:18:27 AM »
Wrong, it had everything to do with the point she was making. Rennie said that she disliked the fast serves, sarah said it had always been like that, I pointed out she was in fact mistaken. TOTALLY RELEVANT
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Yamor
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #90 on: March 10, 2008, 12:25:30 AM »
Nope, i don't agree. I feel her point stands without it having been true in the original way tennis was played.
And before you start arguing with me over whether Sarah meant that or not, i don't give a damn what she meant. From the start i was stating my opinion, not hers, since I'm not, to paraphrase you, a know-it-all, so i don't know what she meant.
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nkp2
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #91 on: March 10, 2008, 12:29:35 AM »
Quote from: Yamor on March 10, 2008, 12:25:30 AM
Nope, i don't agree. I feel her point stands without it having been true in the original way tennis was played.
And before you start arguing with me over whether Sarah meant that or not, i don't give a damn what she meant. From the start i was stating my opinion, not hers, since I'm not, to paraphrase you, a know-it-all, so i don't know what she meant.
Well maybe so, but like i pointed it out, you worded it very badly. That's why the argument started.
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Yamor
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #92 on: March 10, 2008, 12:33:20 AM »
I love arguing with you Neil, you don't give in at all! I hate it when some people are so eager to end up agreeing after arguing...
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nkp2
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #93 on: March 10, 2008, 12:35:21 AM »
Quote from: Yamor on March 10, 2008, 12:33:20 AM
I love arguing with you Neil, you don't give in at all! I hate it when some people are so eager to end up agreeing after arguing...
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #94 on: March 10, 2008, 10:56:09 AM »
Can anyone tell me why Federer is still on the same ranking points even though he went out in the first round? last week he was 6330 and he's still 6330 this week.
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measdale
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #95 on: March 10, 2008, 11:10:23 AM »
Quote from: KitKat on March 10, 2008, 10:56:09 AM
Can anyone tell me why Federer is still on the same ranking points even though he went out in the first round? last week he was 6330 and he's still 6330 this week.
Wasn't Dubai in a different week this year? So he lost last year's Dubai points before he started, and so wasn't defending any?
(Or maybe he was defending last year's Indian Wells? When he went out in the first round as well?)
(P'raps I'm completely wrong - that's from memory).
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Yamor
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #96 on: March 10, 2008, 11:30:41 AM »
You're right about Dubai, it was a week earlier last year. But, he has not yet dropped the points from last years Indian Wells, because that was played over 2 weeks, the past week and the coming week. Anyway, he's not defending zero from IW, he's defending 5 points which is what you get for a first round exit in GS and MS tourneys.
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measdale
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #97 on: March 10, 2008, 11:41:51 AM »
Quote from: Yamor on March 10, 2008, 11:30:41 AM
Anyway, he's not defending zero from IW, he's defending 5 points which is what you get for a first round exit in GS and MS tourneys.
Sorry about that - brain-fade (ie. I'm an idiot).
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Yamor
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #98 on: March 10, 2008, 11:45:47 AM »
Don't worry!
Its actually quite interesting - for GS and MS tourneys, they give 5 points for a first round loss, but for IS tourneys they give nothing. I remember they used to give 5 points even for IS tourneys, but they changed it. What i don't understand is why they kept it by GS and MS tourneys - why do you deserve anything?
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measdale
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Re: Dubai 2008
« Reply #99 on: March 10, 2008, 11:51:44 AM »
Quote from: Yamor on March 10, 2008, 11:45:47 AM
What i don't understand is why they kept it by GS and MS tourneys - why do you deserve anything?
Perhaps because of the perceived strength of the qualifying field.
Though it does seem a little spurious for those who didn't qualify.
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