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Re: Dubai: Matchday 6 « Reply #30 on: March 09, 2008, 12:36:46 AM »
Quote from: Yamor on March 09, 2008, 12:21:00 AM

Yes, it should be changed, but not retrospectively. I actually think the whole rule should be scrapped, and introduce a new rule, e.g. most correct predictions, but its probably too hard for the organisers.


You mean within the same tournament? Well yeah, that could be done, and yes it is I suppose the most accurate way of splitting a tie... but it is extra work.

It wouldn't be correct winners, but EXACT results anyway no Josh?

I suppose the best way of doing it would be an exact thing in brackets? I.e. nkp2- 20 (7)
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Re: Dubai: Matchday 6 « Reply #31 on: March 09, 2008, 12:37:42 AM »
I see what you mean. But its definitely extra hassle.
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Re: Dubai: Matchday 6 « Reply #32 on: March 09, 2008, 12:40:40 AM »
SO say Player A gets 5 points with 2 exact matches and 1 other, and player B gets 5 matches right but all wrong sets, so also 5 points. It looks like...

A - 5 (2)
b - 5 (0) And A gets the points at the end of the week.
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Re: Dubai: Matchday 6 « Reply #33 on: March 09, 2008, 12:45:44 AM »
We had that system for about 4/5 months at the start... it's absolutely ridiculous.



Quote from: nkp2 on March 09, 2008, 12:18:56 AM

In the result of a tie, the player who scored better the previous week will get the higher number of points. In the event this is still tied, it will go back to the previous week.


Good posting!
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Re: Dubai: Matchday 6 « Reply #34 on: March 09, 2008, 12:47:18 AM »
Why, because it takes so long to calculate or what?
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Re: Dubai: Matchday 6 « Reply #35 on: March 09, 2008, 12:49:48 AM »
Each matchday thread initially had 10+ matches to predict so that could have been a factor but I remember sharing the job with Andrew every Sunday, it took f**king forever. But what ever the public want Smile
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Re: Dubai: Matchday 6 « Reply #36 on: March 09, 2008, 12:50:48 AM »
Well I don't mind doing it like I suggested, because it can be easily done as you update the scores daily like I demonstrated with player A and B. Smile
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Re: Dubai: Matchday 6 « Reply #37 on: March 09, 2008, 12:55:01 AM »
If this idea does happen, then i'd suggest that in the quite likely scenario of two or more people being level on points and correct predictions, then it should go by who managed to earn most points in a single day. If thats equal, then go by their second best day etc etc. This system is similar to the ATP ranking system.
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Re: Dubai: Matchday 6 « Reply #38 on: March 09, 2008, 12:58:48 AM »
But surely that would take longer to work out than just having the number of winners in brackets??
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Re: Dubai: Matchday 6 « Reply #39 on: March 09, 2008, 01:02:10 AM »
No, i meant if the number in the brackets are equal, then do this...
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Re: Dubai: Matchday 6 « Reply #40 on: March 09, 2008, 07:08:50 AM »
There really does need to be some actual rules set out for these cases. As mentioned above, it happened several weeks ago with myself and Dana and noone was really sure which result was correct. As I said at the time, there needs to be a decision and something added to the official rules to avoid this confusion in the future.
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Re: Dubai: Matchday 6 « Reply #41 on: March 09, 2008, 08:04:07 AM »
Once Ill be able to vote everyday in a week,I may win a title
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Re: Dubai: Matchday 6 « Reply #42 on: March 09, 2008, 12:02:33 PM »
Quote from: nkp2 on March 09, 2008, 12:18:56 AM

It's more likely that it was never decided in the intial rules and one person made up their mind and the rest went with it.

But if it could be included now that would be awesome.  
Good posting!

Quote from: nkp2 on March 09, 2008, 12:18:56 AM

In the result of a tie, the player who scored better the previous week will get the higher number of points. In the event this is still tied, it will go back to the previous week.
That's the suggestion I like best. Smile

Although I do have another one: If two or more players are tied at the end of the week the player who is highest on the overall leaderboard will get the points.
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Re: Dubai: Matchday 6 « Reply #43 on: March 09, 2008, 04:17:00 PM »
That first suggestion is easy to do, but technically not very good at actually seperating the better player for that tournament.

And your last suggestion is not good Allan. Say I win this week, then me and Josh tie for first place next week... so he gets the points cause he's higher than me on the overall? Hardly fair is it. Not rewarding either a) that tournaments performance or b) recent results but whole season results. If your going to take it from the overall leaderboard the only way to do it is to give the lower person the poinst as an incentive for the higher people to finish 1st outright. OTHERWISE, you will just get people copying predictions, or choosing something that means they can at worst draw, as they know they are guranteed the points.

I think we should try implementing the number of exact matches.
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Re: Dubai: Matchday 6 « Reply #44 on: March 09, 2008, 04:33:40 PM »
Quote from: nkp2 on March 09, 2008, 04:17:00 PM
I think we should try implementing the number of exact matches.

Would it be fair if only this was counted for Matchday 1? If there's a draw it goes on to Matchday 2 etc.

Or another idea, to make Matchday 1's finals predictions more relevant we could compare the success of the winners predicted. For example if I picked Rafa to win over Federer in 2 and you picked Federer to win over Roddick in 2 then if Federer loses in the 1st round and Rafa loses in the SF I would get the points. I just confused myself but I hope you see what I mean Think
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