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Question: Is Federer's dominance finally over?
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #80 on: March 23, 2008, 06:16:47 PM »
After glandular fever though you may recover from the actual illness bit but most people suffer from fatigue after...id be surprised if he was fully recovered now .
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #81 on: March 23, 2008, 07:54:08 PM »
whats the chance of a federer withdrawing from miami......i think def....you heard it here first.
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #82 on: March 23, 2008, 08:33:40 PM »
Quote from: robbie on March 23, 2008, 07:54:08 PM

whats the chance of a federer withdrawing from miami......i think def....you heard it here first.

Why would he withdraw now when he didn't from the other tournaments when he was ill?
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #83 on: March 24, 2008, 10:46:22 AM »
The debate on here seems to be:

Fed is ill        V         Fed is losing it.


I say Fed is losing it because he is ill. He is a confidence player. When you look how he used to play before winning Wimbledon in 2003 - far too patchy and inconsistent. These loses (due to illness perhaps) are going to sap that confidence and I just don't think that dominance will ever return. If it were only Nadal waiting to capitalise then maybe - but not with Nole around.  I would bet quite a few quid on Nole winning either WImbledon or the US this year. Arguably, if he hadn't been so knackered at by the rain rescheduling at Wimbledon last year he would have had a good crack then.
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #84 on: March 24, 2008, 11:29:18 AM »
I think Fish is really having a phenomenal run at the moment, very few could have stopped him. Federer should have been one of them as the current number one though.
+ He thinks he's so unbeatable, really embarrassing when the opposite is proven.
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #85 on: March 24, 2008, 01:31:20 PM »
Federer was losing his dominance WAY before this silly illness of his, it's just a excuse and maybe it has acted as a catalyst, that's all.
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #86 on: March 24, 2008, 01:36:21 PM »
Quote from: Mark on March 24, 2008, 01:31:20 PM

Federer was losing his dominance WAY before this silly illness of his, it's just a excuse and maybe it has acted as a catalyst, that's all.


It depends on when he actually was supposed to have contacted it.  If he got it in Nov or something, it could explain everything...that's why I'm still keeping an open mind.

The thing that has more surprised me is that he seems to have been a lot more well and capable than I would have expected.
 
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #87 on: March 24, 2008, 01:37:56 PM »
Maybe losing his dominance a bit, but still winning 3 slams, getting to the final of the other, winning the masters cup, winning two masters, 3 other masters finals. That is dominance, I'm sorry! Maybe not as much as in previous years, but still better then anyone else has ever done for years and years.
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #88 on: March 24, 2008, 01:54:06 PM »
Fed has not lost anything. In case anyone wasn't paying attention, every report on the Fish match says Fish played out of his skin. Let's not forget, it is a semi final for fed in only his 3rd tournament of the year. Long way to go yet.
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #89 on: March 24, 2008, 02:09:35 PM »
Since when could a player beat Federer just because they were playing out of their skin? Only recently, only since he has started to lose his dominance.

He may still technically be dominating right now but there is no doubt he is losing it and has been losing it for a while.
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #90 on: March 24, 2008, 04:00:41 PM »
Morning sickness?

I thought the most encouraging thing about the win against Fed wasn't the fact it was Fed but Andy's attitude and his game in the match. He was composed and happy and he served brilliantly.

Fed is under par but I think everyone's making too much of the glandular fever thing. People with bad glandular fever don't get to semis of slams and MS, they withdraw. Ancic had glandular fever and post viral fatigue and was out for 7 months. And he hasn't really been right since. Although he's getting better now. I think the difference we'll see in Fed this year is he won't just get through those little mid-tournament matches he shouldn't win. And that may be the difference between no1 and no3.
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #91 on: March 24, 2008, 04:02:22 PM »
Even without bad glandular fever though, Fed could be affected for a time after... i'm not gonna say that  that Fed's over just yet - i think he'll get better with a few months.
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #92 on: March 24, 2008, 04:04:50 PM »
I agree,  I think his decline will be a slow one.  He'll still be in the top five by the end of this year I reckon.
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #93 on: March 24, 2008, 04:06:54 PM »
He'll still be number 1 at the end of the year. He will win wimbledon and he will win 2 or 3 masters.
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #94 on: March 24, 2008, 04:10:04 PM »
He's definately not over. He's still gonna win titles. But like I say, I think the difference is gonna be the tight matches. Once people get over the stigma more people will beat him.
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #95 on: March 24, 2008, 04:22:20 PM »
Erm...... Well, without looking at numbers, he's have to average more points than everyone else over the year. Consistency is the key to number 1. So we're talkng finals minimum of the 3 slams, win's would help more obv, and 2 or 3 titles at masters.... highly unlikely since he's so far behind just now.

Short answer, it's possible, of course, because there's still 3/4 of the year to go. hence 3/4 of the points to play for.

If he wins everything he entres from now, he could be number one after wimbledon i would think, if other people drop points they got last year. If they don't, he'd probably have to wait til around the USOpen.
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #96 on: March 24, 2008, 04:25:11 PM »
Murray for no-1 yay
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #97 on: March 24, 2008, 04:29:30 PM »
Realistically we'll be lucky if he's in the top-10 come the end of the year.
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #98 on: March 24, 2008, 04:29:40 PM »
He can very realistically make 4th. In fact, I'd say he's likely to make 4th if he plays reasonably till Wimbledon...
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Re: Federer's dominance is over, it's official « Reply #99 on: March 24, 2008, 04:38:41 PM »
He'd need about 1250 points from mandatory tourneys. He could get thatby Wimbledon by reaching a quarter and a semi in the two slams, and 3 quarters and a semi in the 4 masters. If you think he should be top 4, then he should get that!
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