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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4880 on: March 24, 2008, 11:14:36 PM »
Quote from: scotsman75 on March 24, 2008, 05:48:53 PM
Agree there. But how many times have we seen Players surrounding the ref and giving him abuse. Man Utd are probably the worst at it. Think back to Keane's timne. He was terrible, so is Rio and Gary Neville!
Indeed. Difference is they play for Man Utd, and the latter 2 are English. As is Steven Gerrard who was caught on camera telling the referee "you're taking the f**king piss" yesterday while escaping even a telling off. As is Martin Taylor. As is Ashley Cole who only got a yellow for almost exactly the same challenge as Taylor the other day against Spurs, then received no further punishment for a reaction surely not to dissimilar to Mascherano's.
Macsherano on the other hand is just another 'Johnny Foreigner.' As is Jeremie Aliadiere. As is Eduardo. Who cares about these players?
There's a trend there. It's been like this for years. There are different rules for the English players and the foreigners. Alan Shearer used to get away with murder every week when he was England captain.
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4881 on: March 24, 2008, 11:49:58 PM »
Gerrard had a point though! Refs need to be more consistent.
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4882 on: March 25, 2008, 12:03:38 AM »
Yeah he has a point. But in the changing room to his team. You don't speak to a ref like that. Not if you want some decisions to start going your way anyway!
If that had been Mascherano or Torres or Aliadiere or Fabregas or someone, it would have been a yellow, even red card. But not Gerrard or Terry or Rooney. The ref would fear for his job. That's the way it is.
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4883 on: March 25, 2008, 01:31:57 AM »
Arsenal should buy some more English players then.
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4884 on: March 25, 2008, 01:56:58 AM »
Won't get any argument from me.
Although I'd probably say develop themselves rather than buy.
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4885 on: March 25, 2008, 04:36:56 PM »
Ferdinand to captain England vs France tomorrow. Capello says its not permanent just another trial before he decides by the start of the qualifying campaign on a permanent captain.
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4886 on: March 25, 2008, 11:02:26 PM »
Strange choice. Couldn't think of a worse choice in the squad for captain actually. But fair enough to try out a few I guess.
I'd give it to Gerrard. Give him the captaincy and his favoured role in the side and we will finally see him play for England like he does for Liverpool IMO.
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4887 on: March 26, 2008, 04:49:29 PM »
Arsenal was on Sunday
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4888 on: March 26, 2008, 10:11:14 PM »
Scotland are 1-1 with Croatia.
France are beating England 1-0.
N. Ireland are winning 3-1 against Georgia.
Wales 2-0 up against Luxembourg.
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4889 on: March 26, 2008, 11:00:09 PM »
And it finished 4-1 to NI the rest are the same. Good results for everyone apart from England you have to say
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4890 on: March 26, 2008, 11:19:59 PM »
So England get beat by the team that we beat twice, and we draw with the team that beat them twice!
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4891 on: March 26, 2008, 11:21:54 PM »
Quote from: scotsman75 on March 26, 2008, 11:19:59 PM
So England get beat by the team that we beat twice, and we draw with the team that beat them twice!
Exactly.... and you wonder why England aren't playing in the Home Nations....
scared much?
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4892 on: March 26, 2008, 11:22:41 PM »
Scotland looked ok tonight. Even though we we're missing a few players!
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4893 on: March 27, 2008, 04:43:09 AM »
Not really surprised given the lineup put out. Hargreaves AND Barry in the staring lineup? 2 holding midfielders.
Rooney on his own up front. Surely that has been done (and failed) to death. He's not a target man, he's a play maker. Play him in behind the front man if there must be a loan striker FFS. Maybe officially on paper he plays as a loan striker for United, but he's got Ronaldo, Giggs, Scholes, Nani etc around him. Doesn't work with the players England have. So much for Capello being such a genius tactician. The fact that he would do such incredibly ridiculous things as make Ferdinand captain and play Rooney up front on his own don't fill me with confidence for WC qualifying tbh. If 1 up front is the way to go, then the only feasible option is Crouch with Rooney in behind him just in front of the midfield. Maybe I should give up my Economics degree and get a UEFA Coaching License. Because this football manager job doesn't seem as hard to me as some of these guys like to make it!
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4894 on: March 27, 2008, 09:03:16 AM »
Decent result for Scotland.
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4895 on: March 27, 2008, 11:43:14 AM »
Give Capello some time, he has a big mess to sort out... I don't expect miracles after 2 matches...
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4896 on: March 27, 2008, 11:50:16 AM »
And why not? I expected a little more English to flow from his mouth since he spouted off something that he could learn the language in month! Christ, the football part should have been the easy part!
Sorry John, my opinion of the match is based entirely on a few clips I saw on the news tonight - wasn't on any of the sky sports channels
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4897 on: March 27, 2008, 11:54:46 AM »
Quote from: JohnW on March 27, 2008, 11:43:14 AM
Give Capello some time, he has a big mess to sort out... I don't expect miracles after 2 matches...
There's a difference between miracles and competence and it's more the latter I was hoping to see tbh.
Obviously we were never going to beat France, and the result is not important. But given he had pretty much a fully fit squad it would have been nice to see a more appropriate system and a half decent performance. Instead we just got more of the same.
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4898 on: March 27, 2008, 12:03:44 PM »
Yeah Alex, its amazing. We get a top manager who has a record better then basically anyone else, he comes to the England job, and suddenly he's a crap manager! Come on!
Obviously, he has to try out a few things, things that you and I wouldn't even think of, try them out in friendlies, until he hits on a good set-up. What he tried last night wasn't just a normal 4-5-1, cause he had Cole and Gerrard up there. I'm not saying it worked - it didn't - but he's obviously trying out a few ideas, and will hopefully get one right.
Please please don't assume that he doesn't know what he's talking about, just look at what he's achieved! I'd say the same about a lot of your comments about Wenger, but since i don't specially like Arsenal, i don't care when you go mad about his decisions...
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4899 on: March 27, 2008, 12:14:46 PM »
I didn't say he was crap, nor that he doesn't know what he's talking about. I was just surprised and tbh disappointed to see the same old rubbish tried again. And inevitably, the same old result. Of course he has to try things, but if the last 2 years have taught us anything at all, it's surely that we do not have the resources to play Rooney up front on his own.
Anyway, it was only a friendly so perhaps he'll find something more appropriate by the time a competitive game comes around. How many more friendlies are there before WC qualifying out of interest?
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