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Lionheart
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4860 on: March 23, 2008, 06:23:24 PM »
Ronaldo just keeps on scoring, Hope the arsenal - Chelsea is a draw.
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Allan
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4861 on: March 23, 2008, 07:13:14 PM »
Chelsea win 2-1 after being 0-1 down with 20 mins to go.
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4862 on: March 23, 2008, 11:41:44 PM »
I don't know if I should be ashamed to say I almost cried after the game. If it wasn't over for us last week, it is now. 5 points clear just a month ago, and now 6 points behind. Top for so long and now getting an automatic CL spot isn't even our own hands anymore. Noone to blame. It was in our own hands. All we had to do was beat 2 or 3 awful teams in Wigan, Middlesbrough and Birmingham and we could have lost this game and still been very much in it. Bring on Liverpool in the CL now.
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4863 on: March 24, 2008, 02:46:03 AM »
What an amazing match!!! I was out of my seat screaming during the two goals!!!
CHELSEA!!!!
Man U...you still gotta come to the bridge. Be afraid. Be very afraid. We are coming for you.
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4864 on: March 24, 2008, 02:47:10 AM »
Not a chance. They won't drop another point this season now. Just too strong.
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4865 on: March 24, 2008, 02:49:13 AM »
We Shall See. But I totally disagree. They will slip. And lose at The Bridge. Giving the title to Chelsea.
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4866 on: March 24, 2008, 02:51:55 AM »
Not quite. You will still need someone else to beat them while not dropping another point yourself.
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4867 on: March 24, 2008, 02:52:35 AM »
Never thought Paul Jewell had it in him!
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nkp2
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4868 on: March 24, 2008, 02:52:47 AM »
Man Utd are just too good right now. They are honestly awesome. Champions league? I think so.
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« Reply #4869 on: March 24, 2008, 04:53:46 AM »
Not so sure about that. I don't think there will be a premiership/CL double tbh. I do think the CL will be won by an English side, but not the same side who win the league. Just my feeling, that's all. United still have to beat Roma and Barcelona over 2 legs then Arsenal/Liverpool/Chelsea/Fenerbahce to win the CL. No easy games.
The league looks a much more straightforward task. You would expect them to avoid defeat against us at Old Trafford, and probably win comfortably given our form of late. Chelsea is the only other game where dropped points seem conceiveable. As long as they don't lose both those games, that's the title.
With the CL, they will probably beat Roma, although I wouldn't say it's guaranteed. Beating Barca over 2 legs is certainly no easy task, and then a one-off final can go either way.
With the draw, the semi finals look like being Arsenal/Liverpool vs Chelsea and Man Utd vs Barcelona. I'd like to say Arsenal of course, but that quarter final is the only one where the result doesn't seem obvious beforehand. With the CL being the only thing left for both sides to play for, there could be 2 cracking games there. And in fact, I will stick my neck out and say the winner of that one will go onto to win the final. Simply because, those are the only 2 teams of the 8 (apart from Shalke, but they will never beat Barcelona over 2 legs) no longer in a title battle and will now be 100% focussed on this. The other 3 probable semi finalists are going to be heavily focussed on winning the league as well, and I just think that might count against them in the CL. Or should I say hope rather than think?
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4870 on: March 24, 2008, 05:10:54 PM »
I just saw somewhere that all Mascherano said to the ref was 'whats happening', no swearwords, no slagging him off, or anything! Its a joke!
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nkp2
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4871 on: March 24, 2008, 05:26:38 PM »
Quote from: Yamor on March 24, 2008, 05:10:54 PM
I just saw somewhere that all Mascherano said to the ref was 'whats happening', no swearwords, no slagging him off, or anything! Its a joke!
He walked about 30 yards to argue with him and he's not the captain, he was told to go away, he's an idiot, he deserved a yellow card. Unfortunate for him it was his second. He harrassed the referee throughout the match.
Put it this way, anyone says one thing to an umpire in hockey, instant yellow card and off the pitch. They can as what was the foul for, but if they swear, they are off. Simple as.
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4872 on: March 24, 2008, 05:27:31 PM »
Yeah, I agree about the Champions league Alex. Our game is the decider. Either Man U or Barca will reach the final and one of us!
It sucks that Mascherano was sent off for that, but it was coming anyway. He wouldnt have lasted much longer anyway. Every time, he was back chatting to the ref. It should never have happened in the first place, as Torres no way deserved a yellow for dissent!
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4873 on: March 24, 2008, 05:28:30 PM »
Quote from: nkp2 on March 24, 2008, 05:26:38 PM
He walked about 30 yards to argue with him and he's not the captain, he was told to go away, he's an idiot, he deserved a yellow card. Unfortunate for him it was his second. He harrassed the referee throughout the match.
Put it this way, anyone says one thing to an umpire in hockey, instant yellow card and off the pitch. They can as what was the foul for, but if they swear, they are off. Simple as.
He didnt swear. He asked why Torres had been booked. Does that deserve a yellow card?
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Yamor
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4874 on: March 24, 2008, 05:31:43 PM »
What do you mean, neil? As it stands, there is no rule saying only captains can speak to the the ref, so whats wrong if he walked 30yards, and asked whats happening?
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nkp2
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4875 on: March 24, 2008, 05:31:45 PM »
Quote from: scotsman75 on March 24, 2008, 05:28:30 PM
He didnt swear. He asked why Torres had been booked. Does that deserve a yellow card?
He was swearing and hassling the ref all game. Swearing was an example of what would get you sent off in hockey. He had been swearing earlier. It was dissent that got him carded. Football needs to wake up, and realise that once a ref makes a decision that's it, you can ask what it was for - there's not much in football for fouls except them being fouls i guess - and he can say "handball, tackle from behind, whatever" and that's it. You walk away, swear to yourself if you have to, but NEVER at the ref and arguing a decision? HA when has a decision ever been over turned, what's the point.
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Yamor
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4876 on: March 24, 2008, 05:33:09 PM »
Again, neil, maybe it should be the case in football as well, but it hasn't till now, and the rules haven't changed!
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nkp2
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4877 on: March 24, 2008, 05:38:55 PM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4637805.stm
This should be brought back in.
I agree football is a joke. What is a ref supposed to do though? Stand and take it? It should be zero tolerance like any sport. You'd see hundreds more yellow cards for a couple of seasons. I mean, football is the only sport with the level of abuse it has. It's ridiculous. Rules need added and or changed.
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scotsman75
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4878 on: March 24, 2008, 05:48:53 PM »
Agree there. But how many times have we seen Players surrounding the ref and giving him abuse. Man Utd are probably the worst at it. Think back to Keane's timne. He was terrible, so is Rio and Gary Neville!
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nkp2
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Re: Football Talk
« Reply #4879 on: March 24, 2008, 05:50:23 PM »
Quote from: scotsman75 on March 24, 2008, 05:48:53 PM
Agree there. But how many times have we seen Players surrounding the ref and giving him abuse. Man Utd are probably the worst at it. Think back to Keane's timne. He was terrible, so is Rio and Gary Neville!
I agree entirely. And on that basis i suppose he was "unlucky" to be sent off. However, that doesn't make it right that the ones before were not.
He was having a bad game. Watched MOTD2 last night and he backchatted to the ref bout 7 times after his first yellow and before the second.
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