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McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « on: February 29, 2008, 10:48:04 AM »
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John McEnroe thinks it's a "complete joke" that Davis Cup organisers have failed to make any changes to prevent the withdrawal of high-profile players.

Players simply look at it like they an get away with it now.

They're not going to be criticised that much for doing it.

They go play events where they get obscene amounts of money and claim that the Davis Cup doesn't fit into their schedule.

Maybe Murray has taken some heat for a week or so, but it'll go away. It's sad that it's come to this.

The fact the people who run the Davis Cup haven't made a change already is a complete joke, it's unbelievable.

You look at the top players and you're lucky if half of them play now.
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #1 on: February 29, 2008, 10:51:25 AM »
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I think all the top players at least should come together and organise a complete boycott until changes are made.
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #2 on: February 29, 2008, 01:31:10 PM »
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Why is it Andy that's having to take all the flack over this, he's missed one match for God's sake, why do you never see loads of bad press when others who have done it numerous times keep on doing it?  I never want to see the words Davis Cup ever again.  pullhair
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #3 on: February 29, 2008, 01:34:03 PM »
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I agree with you. And i think that's partly what Mac is saying is that none of the guys do get flack over it and rightly so. It should be the organisers that are getting the stick. I mean, if Andy was gonna gain points in addition to his 18 best for DC do you think he would have sacraficed it for Rotterdam?
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #4 on: February 29, 2008, 01:37:05 PM »
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Mark, i don't think a boycott will help. The problem is not the davis cup organisers (the ITF), they would love to force players to play. The onus is on the ATP, who are the only ones with the power to do anything, but they're not interested in doing anything. I can't think of anything anyone could do to force them to change it. As far as they're concerned they couldn't care less if the Davis cup fails.
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #5 on: February 29, 2008, 01:39:40 PM »
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I suppose clearing the schedule of big tournaments for 4 weeks of the year is about as much as the ATP are gonna give them. And I don't think it can be a question of forcing players to participate. I think it needs to be an incentive based thing. Or at least that they're not gonna lose out on anything personally through playing.
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #6 on: February 29, 2008, 01:39:51 PM »
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I couldn't care less either and I agree the ATP is partly responsible but the Davis Cup organisers need to make changes.
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #7 on: February 29, 2008, 01:41:57 PM »
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What changes can they make if they have no power?
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #8 on: February 29, 2008, 01:43:32 PM »
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Scheduling?
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #9 on: February 29, 2008, 01:45:08 PM »
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What changes could they make? They have to play over 4 weekends through the year, and already in those weeks the ATP don't schedule tournaments...
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #10 on: February 29, 2008, 01:46:20 PM »
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Are they even trying to make the ATP help?
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #11 on: February 29, 2008, 01:48:43 PM »
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They'd love it. I'm sure they try to pressure them, but they haven't got anything to offer in return, so its basically not worth it. It was hassle enough for them to organise ranking points for the olympics tennis tourney, which is also organised by the ITF...
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #12 on: February 29, 2008, 01:54:00 PM »
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I'd love it if it was scheduled like the world cup in football - every 4 years, or perhaps in this case, every 2 years.  Think
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #13 on: February 29, 2008, 01:57:46 PM »
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What, and have all the rounds in, say, a two or three week period? Thats actually not a bad idea at all...
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #14 on: February 29, 2008, 02:01:20 PM »
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My idea would be to have 32 nations gathering once every 2/4 years and competing in a knockout tournament that would last from around a fortnight to a month, but I think the rubbers would have to be best of three, instead of best of five.

As for the qualification aspect of it, that might have to be done throughout the year - but players might have more interest in participating if the format is more exciting and there's less matches to be played. Smile
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #15 on: February 29, 2008, 02:11:09 PM »
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I totally support Andrews idea but obviously they'd never do that.
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #16 on: February 29, 2008, 03:01:06 PM »
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Qualifying could be played like the lower zones are already decided over the course of the year leading up to it. Countries could choose what team to put up based on who their opponents are gonna be. For example, Andy and Jamie needn't necessarily play against Bulgaria, for example (best player ranked 460th).

Teams would be seeded based on the combined ranking of their top four the week before the qualifying draw is made. (taking into account doubles rankings).

You could then do it exactly like the World cup with group stages 3's with the QF's onward best of 5. You could do it exactly like World cup. A host country would compete for DC to be played with them, probably every two years but on odd's not evens so as not to clash with Olympics.

At group stage, with 3 setters, you could play 2 singles (no 1 vs no 1 and no 2 vs no 2) and a doubles so the tie is completed in 1 day. Maybe even employ doubles rules at this stage with no ad and CTB 3rd set. Make it exciting for the fans. 8 groups of 4 teams could have groups completed in 6 days. Only problem would be finding host countries that boast 8 tennis courts to play all the ties.

It would be hellish to organise but it could provide the necessary excitement DC needs to get the top players back on board.
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #17 on: February 29, 2008, 04:24:30 PM »
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And if the change in surfaces are to blame for some of the withdrawals, maybe the country hosting shouldn't be allowed to choose the surface, if the ATP tournaments running at the time of DC are on hard courts then DC should be hard courts etc.   Another thing as well is if ATP tournaments are all being played in say Europe then the DC matches should be in Europe and not have the players flying thousands of miles in the space of a few days.
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #18 on: February 29, 2008, 04:30:27 PM »
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For qualifying, sure.

But for the main event it'll be played over about 3 weeks so it shouldn't matter. It'll probably be played on indoor carpet anyway. Make it at the end of the tour. Or after USO and before the indoor carpet European run gets under way.
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Re: McEnroe blasts Davis Cup organisers « Reply #19 on: February 29, 2008, 04:37:50 PM »
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You could schedule three years of qualifications, and then the "finals".

What about scheduling qualification every year at the same time as the Masters Cup? And every fourth year there's no MC, but the DC Finals instead.

If you gave it equivalent points to the Masters Cup, then the top players would want to compete in qualification rounds to make sure they take part in the finals ...

Dunno, though Think.
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