They bore me now to be honest. There's plenty of other things for them to dislike Andy for to be perfectly honest without continually rehashing an out-of-date, unproven, misquoted, irrelevant and quite frankly underwhelming criticism. Ooh, big deal, the Scottish Tennis player didn't support the English football team. Honestly!

I'd have much more respect for your dislike of Andy if it was for something remotely relevant like his on-court swearing or his current under-performance, for example. Even, which I suppose you hinted at, his withdrawl from the Davis Cup (which I believe is his choice, but I understand the opposite point of view).

But comments made 2 whole years ago about a World Cup that England did actually fail to win (in fact didn't they lose just as Andy was beating Roddick in the 3rd round and wasn't he hailed as the thing that gave English sports fans something to smile about) is really quite ridiculously petty.

In fact I'd almost say worse than my brother disliking Henman for his entire career for hitting a ball girl! And that was ridiculous.

Uh oh, mark. Don't start that...

But it's the end of the world, Mark! We're all supposed to be one big cuddly British sporting family. What a complete joke! Ever asked a Chelsea fan, or an Everton fan, who they supported in the last Champions League final? Cause you can bet your life it wasn't Liverpool!

Ever asked why we all have seperate football teams, rugby teams, cricket teams? Sport is not about supporting the British interest and it never will be! And anyone who asks or expects it to be is kidding themselves.

Individual sports can be different because it is often about liking the individual.

Yes. I have an indian friend at school who constantly mocks that comedian can't remember his name, he did sport relief the apprentice, it makes it more acceptable. If Murray was English, and said that comment, it would have been looked at in a completly different manner. It doesn't make it okay, the yes I said was in jest, but people don't percieve it as being as bad.

It absolutely does! Have you never heard a black comedian comment on how Black people are allowed to say certain things about themselves that others can't! It's absolutely true. Females can be as chauvanistic as they like, homosexuals can say what they like about being gay. It's a bit like by being on the recieving end gives you the right to say it.

Exactly. That's what I was meaning. In a nutshell. They can say it, it's almost a defense mechanism. I know this is a minor example but it's relevant, when I'm in a conversation, and I can tell a height joke is going to be aimed at me, I prefer to say it myself, than the other person say it.

A sportsman helping Sport Relief, heaven help us and Andy has always got involved with kids, he enjoys it.

So we were never arguing! It just sounded from your first post that you disagreed with me. At least its all clear now.