Exactly. That's what I was meaning. In a nutshell. They can say it, it's almost a defense mechanism. I know this is a minor example but it's relevant, when I'm in a conversation, and I can tell a height joke is going to be aimed at me, I prefer to say it myself, than the other person say it.

A sportsman helping Sport Relief, heaven help us and Andy has always got involved with kids, he enjoys it.

So we were never arguing! It just sounded from your first post that you disagreed with me. At least its all clear now.

Black people being racist and then thinking it's OK because their black really pisses me off - it's absolutely unacceptable. Either we all can be racist or we all can't, ironically it's about equality!

That's the typical view I hear from people of why it's okay to be racist, "well they call each other _____ so we can also" Black people originally used this word to try and protect themselves from others using it, they wanted to take the word back and change it's history because of all the hurt it has originally caused them, they aren't actually racist to each other by using this word.

Also, if your meaning when Black people call White people? I don't know about you, but I don't find this offensive, because we've never suffered prejudice because of our skin colour, so we don't find it offensive (Okay there are some examples of Black of White Racism, in South Africa etc), but in the UK.

But I only find things to be morally wrong, if they offend me, and personally I think don't find it offending.  I'm not saying it applies to you, or whoever else agrees with what your saying.

Racism isn't a definitive definition, there are so many things that are considered racists, and others that aren't. That's why we're even having this discussion.

Indeed.

I think if he wants to do it for Scotland thats healthy.
It's the "British " media that hump more of the expectancy and pressure on him
England's football team have some of the best players around
and suffer from media pressure.
Murray can do without having a Onionhead headlines
maybe if they ignore him a little he might do better at Wimbers

Ye he didn't let it get to him too much for sure
I'm just kinda saying if he got further the hype machine might take over

There's nothing wrong with being proud to be Scottish or Welsh or whatever.

I'm proud to be Scottish and if an Englishman has a dig at the Scots I would just laugh at the banter and not give out the crap he was getting
If Scotland play England at anything do we want him to say nothing in case he gets into trouble

if so then it gets a bit silly