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Re: Murray hires PR guru to fix bad image « Reply #45 on: March 25, 2008, 12:18:36 PM »
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I agree with the kids thing. Andy really does seem to genuinely love hanging out with the kids. Even when there was no PR actually in it. You had to dig really deep to find any press about how many kids he worked with when he came to Aberdeen but the 3 Murrays held workshops pretty much 3 days solid!
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Re: Murray hires PR guru to fix bad image « Reply #46 on: March 25, 2008, 12:34:05 PM »
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Black people being racist and then thinking it's OK because their black really pisses me off - it's absolutely unacceptable. Either we all can be racist or we all can't, ironically it's about equality!
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Re: Murray hires PR guru to fix bad image « Reply #47 on: March 25, 2008, 12:35:24 PM »
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Finally something we agree about Mark! Thats why I like Ali G - I find that's a point he gets across very well...
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Re: Murray hires PR guru to fix bad image « Reply #48 on: March 25, 2008, 12:38:52 PM »
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Black people being racist and then thinking it's OK because their black really pisses me off - it's absolutely unacceptable. Either we all can be racist or we all can't, ironically it's about equality!


That's the typical view I hear from people of why it's okay to be racist, "well they call each other _____ so we can also" Black people originally used this word to try and protect themselves from others using it, they wanted to take the word back and change it's history because of all the hurt it has originally caused them, they aren't actually racist to each other by using this word.

Also, if your meaning when Black people call White people? I don't know about you, but I don't find this offensive, because we've never suffered prejudice because of our skin colour, so we don't find it offensive (Okay there are some examples of Black of White Racism, in South Africa etc), but in the UK.

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Re: Murray hires PR guru to fix bad image « Reply #49 on: March 25, 2008, 12:42:31 PM »
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Yes we don't find it that offensive but at the end of the day it's wrong regardless of the reasons above.
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Re: Murray hires PR guru to fix bad image « Reply #50 on: March 25, 2008, 12:44:43 PM »
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But I only find things to be morally wrong, if they offend me, and personally I think don't find it offending.  I'm not saying it applies to you, or whoever else agrees with what your saying.

Racism isn't a definitive definition, there are so many things that are considered racists, and others that aren't. That's why we're even having this discussion.
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Re: Murray hires PR guru to fix bad image « Reply #51 on: March 25, 2008, 12:50:49 PM »
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IMO, racism is anything which implies that you're somehow less or worse because of your colour.
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Re: Murray hires PR guru to fix bad image « Reply #52 on: March 25, 2008, 12:54:29 PM »
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Indeed.
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Re: Murray hires PR guru to fix bad image « Reply #53 on: March 25, 2008, 01:01:34 PM »
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I know that is the general definition, I'm not stupid, but there are different types, situations, events,historical factors, all of which should be taken into account.
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Re: Murray hires PR guru to fix bad image « Reply #54 on: March 26, 2008, 12:16:22 AM »
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 Being British means far more than being good at what you do Andy.  


I think if he wants to do it for Scotland thats healthy.
It's the "British " media that hump more of the expectancy and pressure on him
England's football team have some of the best players around
and suffer from media pressure.
Murray can do without having a Onionhead headlines
maybe if they ignore him a little he might do better at Wimbers
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Re: Murray hires PR guru to fix bad image « Reply #55 on: March 26, 2008, 03:53:31 PM »
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to be fair dont think hes done too bad at wimbledon 4th round 2 years ago ino show last year due to injury hopefully a little better this year
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Re: Murray hires PR guru to fix bad image « Reply #56 on: March 26, 2008, 06:14:50 PM »
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Ye he didn't let it get to him too much for sure
I'm just kinda saying if he got further the hype machine might take over

There's nothing wrong with being proud to be Scottish or Welsh or whatever.

I'm proud to be Scottish and if an Englishman has a dig at the Scots I would just laugh at the banter and not give out the crap he was getting
If Scotland play England at anything do we want him to say nothing in case he gets into trouble

if so then it gets a bit silly
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