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Re: Murray through to face Wawrinka « Reply #30 on: May 06, 2008, 01:23:57 PM »
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There's an article up on AM.com about this, he said they had a problem years ago but he'd thought everything was fine now, they talk to each other on the internet and JMDP had asked him to play doubles before.  Andy seems to be upset that JMDP hadn't apologised for hitting the ball at his head.
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Re: Murray through to face Wawrinka « Reply #31 on: May 06, 2008, 02:23:46 PM »
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Re: Murray through to face Wawrinka « Reply #32 on: May 06, 2008, 02:46:12 PM »
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But with DP saying 'you're always the same' as if it were an insult. That's what makes me think it goes further. And his willingness to jump straight to an attack on Judy from pretty much nothing. I don't know. You're maybe right but I just feel like we were walking into the middle of an established argument.

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I've just watched at the video - you see Juan is just dying to say something after the referee tells him not to... too funny. This is how Murray should handle all anger - I'm going to kill him with the tennis - whether it's self-created anger (most often the case with Mr Perfection) or opponent-created anger like here.

did Del Potro really cry when getting injured?! From pain, frustration, or all at once? I've never seen that... he didn't try to play again, did he? The articles I read were a bit contradictory.
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Re: Murray through to face Wawrinka « Reply #33 on: May 06, 2008, 03:23:03 PM »
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Didn't try to play again. Was just done for. But he did cry. He looked really sore but I think the crying was part the pressure of the situation coupled with frustration and pain. He's been out for most of the hardcourt with his back and he's just done it in again. Must be really tough when you're trying to get your foot on the ladder.

But Andy was gonna take him apart.
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Re: Murray through to face Wawrinka « Reply #34 on: May 06, 2008, 05:54:46 PM »
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I saw Andy say that bit as he sat down but didn't it go straight to adverts?  Or was that just on Sky.

But what a w**ker Del Potro is.  I quite liked him til this.  Its a bit too childish to start a fight just because he lost his serve.
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Re: Murray through to face Wawrinka « Reply #35 on: May 06, 2008, 05:55:55 PM »
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I was watching BBC news when I got home, and they said something about him calling Andy's mam... I was like what the... are the Masters in the ghetto all of a sudden.
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Re: Murray through to face Wawrinka « Reply #36 on: May 06, 2008, 05:58:15 PM »
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Well at least Potty didn't say something  I'd hit it  God knows what Andy would have done lol
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Re: Murray through to face Wawrinka « Reply #37 on: May 07, 2008, 09:53:27 PM »
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Not sure if its been mentioned yet but theres was a few Q&A's on am.com about this match and the comments Potty made about him mum.

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Re: Murray through to face Wawrinka « Reply #38 on: May 07, 2008, 10:19:37 PM »
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The important parts...

Q. Did you feel by the time he suffered his mishap you were getting on top?

Yeah, I felt I was, yeah, for sure playing better. I was starting to return a bit better and my shot selection improved. You know, at the end the second set, it started to get better and starting mixing in some serve and volley and coming to the net a bit more. You know, kind of, I think, threw him off his rhythm a little bit which, you know, stopped him from being able to dictate the points like he probably was for the majority of the first set.

Q. Can you just take us through the one or two controversial things that happened out there? I think we get the gist of the first one, but the second one when you and Fergus were having quite a long conversation about something we thought involved Juan Martin.

Yeah, basically, I mean, I've never said that -- I've always been open and saying that I swear on court sometimes louder than I should. But, no chance I swore there. I've never once disputed getting a warning for an audible obscenity before. You know, but it's a little bit unfortunate when you don't swear and the umpire thinks you say something else. It's, you know -- I mean, you got -- I was obviously going to argue it because I didn't swear. You know, the second one, it was like 4-All in the second set and I hit a -- played serve and volley and hit a bad volley in the middle of the service box and he came in and hit a full-power backhand straight at my head. You know, I would have thought that it's normal to, you know, apologize for something like that. I've known him since we were 13 and 14, and, you know, to get an apology was a little bit disappointing.

So, yeah, maybe after that the next two or three points I was maybe shouting, Come on a little bit more than I usually do. But, you know, I think I was not very happy with getting the ball aimed at my head and not getting any sort of an apology. Yeah, got a bit of emotion into the match, and at the change of ends he said something that's -- I'm not going to go into too much detail, but for me it was completely unacceptable. You know, told him he better watch his mouth. And then, yeah, I mean, it was maybe a good thing for me. I wanted to win so much more after that. You know, I thought -- started thinking a little bit more. You know, I didn't feel like I was going lose the match after that point.

Q. Apparently Sky was saying it was something to do with your mother. That's what the microphones picked up.

Yeah, he said something about my mum, yeah.

Q. You wouldn't appreciate that, I guess.

Someone saying something about your mother who is one of the nicest ladies you're ever going to meet? I don't think that's really that cool. You know, he can say whatever he wants to me. I know that, you know, regardless of how people think I behave on court I've only had one problem ever in my 16o matches on the tour, because I don't scream come on into my opponents' faces and I don't say anything to them when I'm walking by them. I've never had one problem in all of my matches. You know, so I was a little bit disappointed when someone said something about my mum, you know, on the court. I don't think -- I mean, he can say whatever he wants to me. I don't care. I've had a lot of bad things said about me before. Didn't really bother me. I think when you start to talking about one's family they're going to naturally not take that too well?

Q. Did you complain to the umpire about that?

Oh, when the umpire -- when he said it to me I just said basically said, What are you doing? Watch your mouth. You don't say stuff like that on the court. He just said , Leave it until after the match. And I said, You warned me for not even swearing at the start of the match, and this guy is talking about my family and, you know, you're not going to do anything about that? And he said, Well, you know, wait until after the match or something. That was the only thing I was arguing about. I think that merits a warning.

Q. Have you got on okay with him prior to this?

Well, I mean, I've known him since we were 13 and 14. He's asked me to play doubles and I speak to him on the Internet sometimes. I think we had a problem once maybe. Like he said something to me after a match like at the French Open juniors. But, yeah, I mean, we've been fine. Yeah, I mean, nothing like what happened on the court tonight had never happened before.

Q. In a sense can it get you almost fired up for the rest the tournament, something like that?

Yeah.

Q. I mean, because you came from behind quite a lot tonight.

Yeah, I did have to come from behind a lot. Yeah, I think the first round is always tough whoever your playing against, because, I mean, I hadn't practiced at 9:00 at night for a long time and hadn't played in conditions as heavy as that before. Naturally you're not going to be feeling 100% confident going into the match like you do once you get deeper into the tournament. So it gives you more confidence you come through a match like that. Even though you're not maybe playing your best, you still get another chance to do better in the next match, and hopefully when the courts are a little bit quicker.
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Re: Murray through to face Wawrinka « Reply #39 on: May 08, 2008, 12:33:46 AM »
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I think when you start to talking about one's family they're going to naturally not take that too well?

Andy has gone all posh on us lol
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Re: Murray through to face Wawrinka « Reply #40 on: May 08, 2008, 07:31:32 AM »
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Oh Andy! lol
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Re: Murray through to face Wawrinka « Reply #41 on: May 08, 2008, 06:01:38 PM »
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So now here's the actual story - Murray took exception to del Potro hitting hard up the middle with a passing shot of a weak volley. Expecting an apology (for what I have no idea) and not getting it, Murray took exception to it and began to shout out and congratulate himself on del Potro's errors. Murray's Mom joined in the cheering of his errors. Del Potro said nothing at the change over, and Murray again sought an apology for a perfectly legal play to which del Potro referred to him and his mother cheering his errors. It was to this point that del Potro said to Murray, "You're always the same...you and your Mom." Later Murray made patently false claims that del Potro was head-hunting on the pass, which isn't at all corroborated by this video:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/q6psmRAm4tM&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/q6psmRAm4tM&rel=1</a>, which clearly shows that not only did he hit to the right of Murray (and not at his head) but that he the ball actually hit Murray's racquet. So why in the world he was expecting an apology is a big mystery. Perhaps he needed to invent a reason to be motivated, or perhaps he's so often in receipt of special dispensation for being the British #1, he has an inflated sense of entitlement and expect everyone - including his opponents - to cowtow to his every whim. Either way, the video shows that Murray is a liar for claiming del Potro hit at him, which he didn't, and is probably lucky that the umpire saved him the embarrassment of having to finish his thought when he said, "Do you want to speak about my Mum again?", because I'm certain he wouldn't have done a thing about it. To his credit del Potro stood his ground, and didn't apologize, and didn't continue the ridiculous argument with the umpire who began by rightly telling Murray his opponents have the right to hit it at the - EVEN THOUGH HE DIDN'T.
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Re: Murray through to face Wawrinka « Reply #42 on: May 08, 2008, 06:16:23 PM »
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Who are you? Someone from del Potro's team?
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Re: Murray through to face Wawrinka « Reply #43 on: May 08, 2008, 06:28:55 PM »
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Nope - just a tennis fan who can't stand it when professional players lie in public, as Murray did when he claimed here,

http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/8109422/Murr...o-insulted-his-mother?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=199

that del Potro hit it straight at his head, which the video shows clearly he did not.  He also claimed del Potro insulted his mother - he did no such thing - if she going to show up at his matches cheering his opponents errors, then they should have no problem if an opponent RIGHTLY takes exception to that.
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Re: Murray through to face Wawrinka « Reply #44 on: May 08, 2008, 06:50:28 PM »
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Looking at the video, what Murray was complaining about doesn't seem such a big deal.
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