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Question: Why did Murray pull out?
He's genuinely injured and he's worried about making it worse. - 13 (52%)
He's seriously exaggerating his condition so he can get out of it. - 9 (36%)
I don't know who to believe anymore!! - 3 (12%)
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Murray injured again « Reply #20 on: January 30, 2008, 10:28:56 PM »
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Just heard Andy has a knee injury on Sky Sports and is out of Davis cup v Argentina
does anyone know what happened?


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Re: Murray injured again « Reply #21 on: January 30, 2008, 10:30:21 PM »
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See here.

Apparently he's injured, I think there's more to it than that.
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #22 on: January 30, 2008, 10:37:22 PM »
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Nah he's not actually injured. He's just running scared.
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #23 on: January 31, 2008, 12:38:30 AM »
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He is an ass. Acting like a total ass. f**king pri*k. He can go to hell as far as Im concerned. Injury, ha sure.
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #24 on: January 31, 2008, 01:08:08 AM »
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Why do you all think every one is lying,?most people dont , so why should Andy bother lying,it doesnt make sense.
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #25 on: January 31, 2008, 01:46:09 AM »
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Times reporting Lloyd as 'shellshocked' after hearing the news via LTA rather than Andy calling him....Andy's trainer Jez Green's training regime may have backfired somewhat.....

Andy's matches were winnable, but even then, would it have been enough to win the tie and maybe knacker his season. Time will tell, but it's a big decision.....might sway ATP to give ranking points for DC matches in future.
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #26 on: January 31, 2008, 04:26:43 AM »
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Caught this on Sky news this morning before setting off for work - my hubby's comment (who's no tennis officiado let me tell you) 'what tournament is he wanting to be ready for rather than play for the DC team?' Think
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #27 on: January 31, 2008, 08:28:20 AM »
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Quote from: netcord on January 31, 2008, 01:46:09 AM

Andy's matches were winnable, but even then, would it have been enough to win the tie and maybe knacker his season. Time will tell, but it's a big decision.....might sway ATP to give ranking points for DC matches in future.

Considering the other big players that regularly pull out of DC, I don't think the ATP will care in the slightest that someone ranked 12th in the world pulled out.
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #28 on: January 31, 2008, 08:57:43 AM »
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If Andy did not contact Lloyd directly that is a disgrace, you would think that he would at least have the curtsy of giving him a call and keeping him informed on his availability.

Having said that, now that Andy pays for his own back room staff he is under no moral or financial obligation to the LTA to play Davis Cup.

I’m not bothered about the Davis Cup in the slightest and am quite happy if he concentrates on his singles career and never plays another rubber again.
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #29 on: January 31, 2008, 09:22:36 AM »
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He is ducking out, and I don't blame him: changing surfaces that quickly is sh*te. Why don't the ATP and DC stand together and declare that any DC tie has to be played on the surface currently 'in use' in the ATP calendar.

Andy once mentioned many top players (Federer, Nadal) did not play the spring DC ties for exactly this reason, and that he was considering this as an option in the Future to prevent injury (remember, last time he DID injure himself in the Spring DC), he seems to have chosen that option this time round.

I'm sorry for Team GB, but I also understand Andy. At the end of the day, no-one's going to remember him for getting injured at DC (especially when the team is not up for great glory), but rather for winning MS and Slams...
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #30 on: January 31, 2008, 09:55:39 AM »
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Thank you Master Murray, off to the bookies to pick up the winnings......again. As a loser you're a dead cert.
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #31 on: January 31, 2008, 10:05:22 AM »
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It's dreadful that Lloyd found out via the LTA rather than Murray. Maybe Murray is too ashamed to tell him because he probably knows that Lloyd will know the real reason.
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #32 on: January 31, 2008, 10:07:02 AM »
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Quote from: capnjack on January 31, 2008, 09:55:39 AM

Thank you Master Murray, off to the bookies to pick up the winnings......again. As a loser you're a dead cert.


I don't know, I think Jamie has the best chance of winning his rubber
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #33 on: January 31, 2008, 10:16:14 AM »
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It's gonna really confuse the general public when he shows up at Rotterdam(?) on the Monday. Especially considering the telly has just stated 'citing recurring knee problems'.

DC organisers could dictate the surface of play based on the weekend it's played. Would that make the April tie clay? It would certainly stop these Argies putting everyone on clay all the time. But then where would we stage clay ties? Or outdoor hard for that matter?
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #34 on: January 31, 2008, 10:21:11 AM »
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this is insane,this is the end of our chances
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #35 on: January 31, 2008, 10:22:27 AM »
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Lloyd responds,

He's played in all the matches that I've been involved in so far, so as far as I'm concerned he is [committed].

He says he's very disappointed and obviously I take him at his word on that. I don't think he would pull out unless there was an injury, why would he?
Confidence is clearly high among the home side, with Acasuso saying:
I think that with Murray in the team they were not the favourites, without Murray they have no chance.

Andy Murray was the main rival for Argentina to beat, but now Argentina is the clear favourite to win the tie.
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #36 on: January 31, 2008, 10:26:25 AM »
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Tell us something we don't know Acasuso. It's like when Ljubicic couldn't play in September.

It's not fair that Lloyd and the team only found out from the lta. Andy should have been in contact himself.

Although I'm sure Lloyd must have had his suspissions. Why stay at home and train on hardcourts when you could be out in Chile with the team playing on clay?
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #37 on: January 31, 2008, 10:44:30 AM »
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andy's behaviour is unpfroffessional to say the least he has to get injured at the most important times. I feel really sorry for the team and john Lloyd. I am going to concentrate on the women's fed cup they have got more of a chane then winning.
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #38 on: January 31, 2008, 10:57:36 AM »
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Now that is a little unfair. He had a major injury last year and he didn't miss a single DC tie. Ok he always seems to be below par for them but at least he plays.

Ok we all think he's being really selfish and unprofessional. He could have gone about it differently. But how would we have reacted if he'd done himself permanent damage in order to play a tie we would probably have lost anyway.

I was speaking to my Dad last night who used to do a little bit of sports injury medicine and I told him what the knee condition was and he was genuinely surprised and said he'd have to be really careful with that cause it could ruin his career.

And, quite frankly, after last year (and the fact this injury has seen him out of action for a considerable period in the past) I don't blame him for being over cautious.

He just went about it the wrong way. Although it's not his fault the fate of the team lies with him.
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Re: Murray withdraws from Davis Cup tie « Reply #39 on: January 31, 2008, 11:01:48 AM »
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Yeah I don't blame him for wanting to quit Davis Cup with all the surface changes, I'm just a bit disappointed he didn't tell Lloyd first. Also, I'm disappointed that he is reluctant to tell the truth rather than put spin on his actions.
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