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Jameselaprendi
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Re: Murray's entourage, was it the right move? « Reply #150 on: August 07, 2008, 01:53:44 AM »
Quote from: Mark on August 07, 2008, 01:49:28 AM

The argument is less about me and more about how Clydey was hypocritcal in the way he thinks he can make a bold statement based on opinion but if someone takes the same approach they are dimissed due to lack of hard evidence. That is where measdale owned him! cmon yeah


Have you not just summed up what i just said about you 5 minutes ago?
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Re: Murray's entourage, was it the right move? « Reply #151 on: August 07, 2008, 02:02:40 AM »
Mark ..... shutup lol

I totally disagree with Clydey's reading of the whole proof evidence thing. He talks pish and takes it far far too seriously. (why is he trusted status again? (and no I won't let this go))

I also however, don't care if they are the so called "yes-men" or not. My two cents worth however is that they can't be all that bad if they have got him to where he is today just be doing what he wants to do. I'm sure they are quite tough on him in each individual area that they specialise in. That's just my opinion and based directly on Andy's results. Rightly or wrongly Wink

And I don't agree Andy would have improved quicker under Gilbert, but again, that's by the by - considering how long a new team takes to gel etc, you can allow a few months of no progress before the real progress begins.

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Re: Murray's entourage, was it the right move? « Reply #152 on: August 07, 2008, 03:38:50 AM »
Quote from: nkp2 on August 07, 2008, 02:02:40 AM

Mark ..... shutup lol

I totally disagree with Clydey's reading of the whole proof evidence thing. He talks pish and takes it far far too seriously. (why is he trusted status again? (and no I won't let this go))





Hey!

That said, I did end up overcomplicating things with the whole default position argument.  That's likely my worst ever debating performance since I entered this world.  f**king tied myself in knots.
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Clydey
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Re: Murray's entourage, was it the right move? « Reply #153 on: August 07, 2008, 03:41:36 AM »
Quote from: nkp2 on August 07, 2008, 02:02:40 AM

Mark ..... shutup lol

I totally disagree with Clydey's reading of the whole proof evidence thing. He talks pish and takes it far far too seriously. (why is he trusted status again? (and no I won't let this go))
 


As for why I have trusted status, being argumentative has little to do with how trustworthy I am.  I'd rather you not imply that I'm some sort of deviant simply because I'm stubborn.
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Re: Murray's entourage, was it the right move? « Reply #154 on: August 07, 2008, 11:39:32 AM »
Quote from: nkp2 on August 07, 2008, 02:02:40 AM
I totally disagree with Clydey's reading of the whole proof evidence thing. He talks pish and takes it far far too seriously. (why is he trusted status again? (and no I won't let this go))

I also however, don't care if they are the so called "yes-men" or not. My two cents worth however is that they can't be all that bad if they have got him to where he is today just be doing what he wants to do. I'm sure they are quite tough on him in each individual area that they specialise in. That's just my opinion and based directly on Andy's results. Rightly or wrongly Wink
I don't really care about whether they are yes-men or not now as clearly Murray is still achieving great things with them. I was concerned his progress would be seriously jeapodised but that hasn't happened.

Maybe Murray is just a tennis genius and doesn't need someone telling him what to do and simply wants people around him to make the experience more fun. If that is the case then it doesn't matter if they are suck ups.
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Re: Murray's entourage, was it the right move? « Reply #155 on: August 08, 2008, 01:49:18 PM »
Maybe no-one cares as long as he reaches his potential!
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Re: Murray's entourage, was it the right move? « Reply #156 on: August 08, 2008, 03:47:33 PM »
Ditto that.  Bottom line - who cares so long as he is winning.
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