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Question: Murray's ranking by the start of the US Open will be:
1-3 - 0 (0%)
4-6 - 13 (22%)
7-10 - 33 (55.9%)
11-20 - 10 (16.9%)
21+ - 3 (5.1%)
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #360 on: March 15, 2007, 11:45:39 AM »
Wow, He just has to beat Haas and then either Djokovic or Ferrer to reach the top 10!
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #361 on: March 15, 2007, 12:44:50 PM »
Yep - only 2 matches away but really really tough ones.  If he gets past Haas he'll be flying.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #362 on: March 15, 2007, 12:57:02 PM »
Yup. If he can beat Haas he can stuff either of those two monkeys!
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #363 on: March 15, 2007, 07:07:42 PM »
I was just looking at ATP site and noticed how good Andy's record with the top 5 is. Only Nadal has a better head to head with Andy in the top 5! 6 to 10 isn't so good for Andy! and 11 onwards is good too!

Federer 1-1
Nadal 0-1
Roddick 3-2
Davydenko 2-2
Gonzalez 1-1
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #364 on: March 15, 2007, 10:12:15 PM »
Quote from: ljsmall on March 15, 2007, 12:57:02 PM
Yup. If he can beat Haas he can stuff either of those two monkeys!

^ True and same goes for the Roddick/Nadal monkey he'd meet in the final. Haas is on top form.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #365 on: March 16, 2007, 09:01:52 AM »
To maximise ranking, Ferrer has to beat Nole, and Andy Haas (obviously) so start crossing those fingers  Fingers crossed
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #366 on: March 16, 2007, 09:03:25 AM »
Looking ahead to Miami, Ancic is supposed to be out, so he will lose another 125 points dropping him to 1775.  Ferrer defends 225 points, so even if he passes Andy in Indian Wells, he probably will fall behind him in Miami.  So, even if Andy loses to Haas and only gets to R16 in Miami, he probably will get to #12.  Of course, if Andy beats Haas tomorrow, he gets to #12 immediately.   
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #367 on: March 16, 2007, 10:12:03 PM »
Ferrer is no match for Djokovic, now Andy's ranking is entirely in his own hands:

Best: #9
Wors:#13

#9:    (Andy W)
#10:  (Andy F)
#11:  IMPOSSIBLE
#12:  (Andy SF)
#13:  (Andy QF)

The good news is that even if he loses today, he should get a #12 seed for Miami.   cmon yeah
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #368 on: March 16, 2007, 10:13:28 PM »
Not over yet Jake. Ferrer just broke back. Wink
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #369 on: March 16, 2007, 10:53:47 PM »
 Think Nole's winning - 6-3 4-3 40-40, with Nole serving...
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #370 on: March 16, 2007, 10:55:26 PM »
Ferrer just can't take the break points. Rolling Eyes
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #371 on: March 16, 2007, 11:10:14 PM »
Looks like Nole may just win that race into the top 10 - even if they both insist they aren't racing. He'll be on 1930 after this week at least then - that's spitting distance from top 10. End of the year they (Andy and Nole) will both be top 6 and at the Masters Cup I reckon.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #372 on: March 17, 2007, 06:08:21 AM »
Andy did the improbable, beating Haas after he turned an ankle and appeared to be out of the match:

Best: #9
Wors:#12

#9:    (Andy W)
#10:  (Andy F)
#11:  IMPOSSIBLE
#12:  (Andy SF)

Congrats to the new world #12!   cmon yeah
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #373 on: March 17, 2007, 06:10:56 AM »
Woohoo, bring on #10! yay
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #374 on: March 17, 2007, 06:17:09 AM »
Even if he loses - he will have 1905 points with only 5 to defend in Miami. He just needs to have an average week and he's top 10 surely.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #375 on: March 17, 2007, 08:26:14 AM »
Quote from: mackym on March 17, 2007, 06:17:09 AM
Even if he loses - he will have 1905 points with only 5 to defend in Miami. He just needs to have an average week and he's top 10 surely.

I would say top 11 surely, because Nalbandian defends 225 points in Miami and And has a pretty safe lead on Berdych and Ferrer unless they do something surprising.  The problem with getting to #10 is Djokovic.  If he loses to Djokovic tomorrow then he has to catch him in Miami which could be tough.  Everybody else in the top 10 is pretty safe for the time being. 

If Andy loses tomorrow, I wouldn't be surprised if he moves into the top 10 if/when he catches Lubjicic.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #376 on: March 17, 2007, 12:35:16 PM »
I tell you what - let's just have him beat Nole then. Easier  Little tongue man
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #377 on: March 18, 2007, 12:17:17 AM »
It would be very painful to see Nole get #10 before Murray when he's the poorer player.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #378 on: March 18, 2007, 03:59:39 AM »
Looking ahead, here are the point totals going into Miami:


#7 Lujbicic 2395 - def. 350
#8 Blake 2310 - def. 125
#9 Haas 2165 (*Djokovic 2210) - def. 35
#10 Djokovic 2060 (*Haas 2165) - def. 20
#11 Nalbandian 1995 - def. 225
#12 Murray 1905 - def. 5
#13 Ancic 1900 - def. 125
#14 Ferrer 1765 - def. 225
#15 Berdych 1715 - def. 35
#16 Gasquet 1590 - def. 5
#17 Youzhny 1515 - def. 5
 
There is going to be a lot less drama about Andy's ranking this tournament.
Ancic is OUT.
Ferrer, Gasquet, and Youzhny need to Win to have any chance to catch Andy
Berdych needs at least a SF to tie Andy
Realistically Andy will not be caught by anyone

Andy starts the tournament with an effective 130 point lead on Nalbandian.  130 is a very convenient number since it requires Nalbandian to make at least a SF to stay ahead of Andy.  If Andy reaches a QF, then Nalbandian must reach the Final.  So, chances are high that Andy will pass Nalbandian.

On the other hand, Andy effectively trails Djokovic by 140 points (if Djokovic loses to Nadal tomorrow), so he's in the same position chasing Djokovic that Nalbandian faces against Andy.  Suprisingly, he effectively trails Lubjicic by 145 points, so his chances of passing Lubjicic are probably better than his chances of passing Djokovic, based on how well Djokovic is playing. 

So, Andy's not going to drop unless something crazy happens.  He's probably going to move up to #11 unless Nalbandian has a great tournament.  He needs a SF to have a chance to pass anyone.

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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #379 on: March 18, 2007, 04:08:33 AM »
What are some of the realistic scenarios for Murray to overtake Nole?
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