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Question: Murray's ranking by the start of the US Open will be:
1-3 - 0 (0%)
4-6 - 11 (28.2%)
7-10 - 18 (46.2%)
11-20 - 8 (20.5%)
21+ - 2 (5.1%)
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1840 on: March 25, 2008, 12:48:38 PM »
Yawn at me all you like Mark but how much have we gone on about the empty run up to the US Open on the last few weeks. And how much were we devistated by that injury spell last year.

Just goes to show just how much of a joke it is to follow the entry ranking from week to week. Far better to look at three months of results at one go. I mean, Andy didn't get into the top 8 after 2 MS semis in March but did after 2 months out the week of Wimbledon. Ranking means Jack! Djokovic is most certainly the best player in the world this week. But he mathmatically can't be number one till after Wimbledon!
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1841 on: March 25, 2008, 12:51:15 PM »
Maybe he should hire Rusedski or Sampras to work on his serve  w00t, from what I can see that is his main downfall, he can sometimes pull through matches when it's not going right but when his serve percentage is up he's unstoppable.  I don't play tennis so I couldn't even guess why he can do it great sometimes and not others.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1842 on: March 25, 2008, 12:51:54 PM »
Quote from: ljsmall on March 25, 2008, 12:48:38 PM

Yawn at me all you like Mark

yawn yawn yawn
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1843 on: March 25, 2008, 01:12:21 PM »
Cheers! lol
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1844 on: March 26, 2008, 12:36:55 AM »
Updated possibilities with  the draw taken into account, and Baghdatis' withdrawal:

If Andy withdraws, loses in R64, or loses in R32:
Possibilities: 22-27
Probable: 22

If Andy loses in R16:
Possibilities: 20-26
Probable: 22

If Andy loses in QF:
Possibilities: 14-24
Probable: 19

If Andy loses in SF:
Possibilities: 11-18
Probable: 13

If Andy loses in F:
Possibilities: 11-13
Probable: 11

If Andy wins the tourny:
Possibilities: 9-11
Probable: 10
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1845 on: March 26, 2008, 01:48:25 PM »
I don't know why all the guys who work out the rankings on AM.com and on MTF.com always give 5 points straight away to each player - its not guaranteed that everyone will get 5 points, because they can still withdraw and get zero points!
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1846 on: March 26, 2008, 04:33:40 PM »
I suppose they're just minimising the unlikely options cause there are so many factors to deal with.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1847 on: March 26, 2008, 04:41:41 PM »
It hardly adds anything! Its only five points...
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1848 on: March 27, 2008, 09:01:01 AM »
Well that depends entirely where in the rankings you are. I remember a time when 5 points meant +20 places...

... at the end of the day, it is very rare that people withdraw days before a tournament, and if this happens, the guys just update the table... basically it's less work if you assume they'll play.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1849 on: March 27, 2008, 10:59:21 AM »
It often happens at least once a tourney. Haas withdrew this week. 2 players withdrew at Indian Wells...
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1850 on: March 27, 2008, 01:37:03 PM »
Yes, but rarely after the draw. Plus if one withdraws, the other 63/47/31 are playing, so it is still less work to assume all play and change the ones that don't than to assume none will play, and start awarding points once they do...
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1851 on: March 27, 2008, 01:38:24 PM »
Quote from: ljsmall on March 25, 2008, 12:48:38 PM

Yawn at me all you like Mark but how much have we gone on about the empty run up to the US Open on the last few weeks. And how much were we devastated by that injury spell last year.




I've added a poll...
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1852 on: March 27, 2008, 02:11:55 PM »
7-10.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1853 on: March 27, 2008, 02:57:48 PM »
Quote from: nkp2 on March 27, 2008, 02:11:55 PM

7-10.


I'd agree with that - 7-10 and fingers crossed.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1854 on: March 27, 2008, 04:04:22 PM »
i think a lot depends on how andy does on the clay and a good performance at wimbledon could see him jump into top 5 or there abouts
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1855 on: March 27, 2008, 04:19:37 PM »
If he does well in Miami, his ranking will be 7-10
I hope the nightmare won't happen to Murray again.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1856 on: March 27, 2008, 04:25:09 PM »
His highest possible ranking is 9th, and that only if he wins the tourney, and Blake withdraws! Almost definitely, even if he wins he won't be higher then 10th. Even if he gets to the final he won't be top 10 - see the possibilities I've posted above.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1857 on: March 27, 2008, 04:29:41 PM »
Quote from: Yamor on March 27, 2008, 04:25:09 PM

His highest possible ranking is 9th, and that only if he wins the tourney, and Blake withdraws! Almost definitely, even if he wins he won't be higher then 10th. Even if he gets to the final he won't be top 10 - see the possibilities I've posted above.

No, I mean his ranking by the start of the US Open.
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1858 on: March 27, 2008, 04:33:58 PM »
Ah, sorry, I misunderstood. But if so, why do you make it so dependent on Miami? Also, you're being very pessimistic!
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Re: Ranking next week... « Reply #1859 on: March 27, 2008, 04:37:32 PM »
It's not dependant on Miami. It's an opinion. Hard Court, same as the US circuit prior to USOpen, a good performance here sets him up well for the clay. Pretty sure that's what nhilun is saying Smile
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