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Oh no poor Andy.
Ive only just heard about this.Such a shame.
But no point in playing if he is not a 100%fit.The most important thing now is for Andy to get himself better.And come back next year well and rested.
I will miss watching him play at the USO this year it just wont be the same now that he is not playing.
But im off to Cyprus on September the 3rd so i would have missed the second week anyway.
I will look forward to watching And play next year.And being fit and healthy fingers crossed .
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Really feel for our boy.  What a nightmare of a year for him.  Without sounding like a harbinger of doom, I do wonder if he'll ever get back to full fitness and be able to compete.  I certainly hope so, as I'd hate to see him having to cut short his career at this stage. 
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It's just so terrible and uncertain now For Andy. Will he be back and be able to compete. That's the most important question.
He must be so disappointed about this year despite all his effort. It took him weeks to prepare for the USOpen.

Surgery means 6 months off, too late for the Australian Open, I read in this article : http://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/hip-specialist-wanted-to-cry-for-andy-murray-20170713-gxb06p.html

Johan Cruijff just to say that every disadvantage goes together with an advantage. Because the baby is due tot arrive in november I hope they'll enjoy this special period at home together and prepare foor the next season. Let's hope zo.
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You know what?  He's given us years of special British tennis and lots to shout about.  I, for one, am so grateful to have witnessed everything he's done - and nothing can take away from that.  I look back at the Davis Cup win and the Olympic Golds.  An absolute pleasure to watch.  Hoping there's more to come, but if not, C'est la vie.  The boy from Dunblane done good!  cmon yeah
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Last few photos of Andy at the USO before he withdrew.


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[ Last edit by amongsttheleaves August 27, 2017, 03:07 PM ] IP Logged
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Whatever decision Andy takes in the next few days, perhaps it could be the basis of a news story so we don't have to look at him hobbling out of Wimbledon for the next 'x' months   w00t
Elly yes of course he has given us so much and it's good always to remember that.  But at present I'm afraid I can't just shrug my shoulders and say 'c'est la vie' if he has to cut his career short when he and we were hoping for at least another two years.   
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You know what?  He's given us years of special British tennis and lots to shout about.  I, for one, am so grateful to have witnessed everything he's done - and nothing can take away from that.  I look back at the Davis Cup win and the Olympic Golds.  An absolute pleasure to watch.  Hoping there's more to come, but if not, C'est la vie.  The boy from Dunblane done good!  cmon yeah
Totally agree. I know that I have been harsh on Andy from time to time, but we won't see the likes of him for a good many years, if ever. I hope that there is more to come (look at Fed and Rafa), but we do have to prepare ourselves for the fact that he may never get back to where he was.
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It's just so terrible and uncertain now For Andy. Will he be back and be able to compete. That's the most important question.
He must be so disappointed about this year despite all his effort. It took him weeks to prepare for the USOpen.

Surgery means 6 months off, too late for the Australian Open, I read in this article : http://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/hip-specialist-wanted-to-cry-for-andy-murray-20170713-gxb06p.html

Johan Cruijff just to say that every disadvantage goes together with an advantage. Because the baby is due tot arrive in november I hope they'll enjoy this special period at home together and prepare foor the next season. Let's hope zo.
I read that article at the time and thought it was unprofessional of that specialist to make these statements because they are at best an educated guess.  Without examining Andy personally and seeing the results of the x-rays and scans no specialist could possibly make an accurate diagnosis.  Even if he is correct, at least it doesn't sound all doom and gloom.

@ATL - Thanks for the pics.  Such a shame things had to turn out the way they did particularly as he looks so happy in the last one.

I know that I have been harsh on Andy from time to time, but we won't see the likes of him for a good many years, if ever. I hope that there is more to come (look at Fed and Rafa), but we do have to prepare ourselves for the fact that he may never get back to where he was.
I hope there's more to come as well because Andy has said that he does want to go on playing for few more years.  He might never get back to being #1 but so long as he can enjoy playing without pain, or the very minimum of it, then I think he'll settle for that.  Obviously he'll need to restrict his schedule which means we'd see less of him, but at least we could still enjoy having him.
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I don't think Andy would be bothered about getting back to # 1 and nor am I on his behalf.  And I certainly hope one lesson he takes from this last year is the need to restrict his schedule.  But if the hip (or an op) means he can't play at the kind of level he is used to, I somehow don't think he'd hang around for long - as a player at least.  I somehow think he'd find it too frustrating.
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Inevitable that the hard graft of the pro tour would have repercussions. And those a couple of years younger eg Milos, Kei  and JMDP are frequently injured. Leave alone players as young as Kyrgios. Which is what Judy was saying quite recently.
Given all that and this unprecedented situation, is it too much to hope that the ATP will now relax the conditions it imposes on players by forcing them to play so many tournaments?

I think another reason (though more for wrist/elbow/shoulder injuries) is the way the tennis racquets are made these days, with artificial rather than natural gut or something like that.  I've heard Petch talk about it alot.  It puts much more strain on the wrist/arm because there is less give.
I didn't know about that Ruthie, so thanks for the info.  Another factor, according to what I've read, is that the current habit of players sliding on hard-courts is likely to cause more hip injuries because of the extra strain it puts on the hips, but the only people who can do anything about that is the players themselves.

I don't think Andy would be bothered about getting back to # 1 and nor am I on his behalf.  And I certainly hope one lesson he takes from this last year is the need to restrict his schedule.  But if the hip (or an op) means he can't play at the kind of level he is used to, I somehow don't think he'd hang around for long - as a player at least.  I somehow think he'd find it too frustrating.
I agree with you there, but there is another possibility and that is to play doubles because that way he'd put less strain on his body, but apart from Jamie I'm not sure that there's anyone else he would want to partner.

The other thing which occurred to me is that if he does take the rest of the year off, there's the small matter of the much trumpeted Andy Live which takes place in Glasgow on 7 November with Federer being his guest player.  While I'm sure the Fed luvvies would still turn up in droves even if he just stood on the court, the fact remains that Andy would still have to pretty fit to play him even if it is a charity event because the spectators would be looking for a decent display to justify the cost of buying tickets, and that in turn would mean having to start preparing for the event quite a while beforehand, something which could well undo the benefits gained from having a complete break.

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I have just read this Guardian article which suggests that surgery might be the only way for Andy to save his career. Worrying stuff.  https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/27/andy-murray-us-open-surgery-knee

I agree with what has been said previously - I don't think Andy would stick around on the tour for long if he thought he couldn't get back to the level he was at when he won each of his majors. His highest level for me was between the Olympics in 2012 and Wimbledon 2013, when he was in the best form of his career. I am worried that he will never reach that level again if he has surgery - but without the surgery he may never play competitively again. 
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Oh dear, such a shame and disappointing for andy and his followers. There is something major whether it requiries surgery or rest he must make a decision.Like Bekker said get strong and sorted for the Aust.open.He has so much to look forward to the birth of their second child wonderful.Andy has achieved so much and us British folk must be so proud of him there will be never another Andy.I have followed  his achievments since he won the us open boys title and saw at wimbledon nearly beating nalbanian and being so sick hence he got team murray together.It is not the end just the beginning of a new era for Andy having to manage his scedule etc.come on andy we are all waiting for you.

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I have just read this Guardian article which suggests that surgery might be the only way for Andy to save his career. Worrying stuff.  https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/27/andy-murray-us-open-surgery-knee

I agree with what has been said previously - I don't think Andy would stick around on the tour for long if he thought he couldn't get back to the level he was at when he won each of his majors. His highest level for me was between the Olympics in 2012 and Wimbledon 2013, when he was in the best form of his career. I am worried that he will never reach that level again if he has surgery - but without the surgery he may never play competitively again. 
I can understand everyone's concern because I too feel the same way, but  it does beg the question as to how much Kevin Mitchell actually knows and how much of it is just speculation.  For one thing has he actually spoken to Andy about this, something I doubt because I'd imagine the last thing Andy would want to do is talk to any members of the press, particularly given how upset he was at even having to do the press conference, which was more to do with the fact that he'd had to pull out of the USO than anything else because he'd been practising OK but realised that his hip was too sore to allow him to play in, and more importantly win, the tournament, which was his main objective.  He's said he'll talk to his team and discuss the best way forward and reach a decision in the next couple of days, which I took to mean whether he takes the rest of the year off, something he doesn't really want to do, or whether he'll play any more tournaments.

As for the suggestion that Andy has given up fighting, I'd say that that's nonsense, otherwise why did he try to play all the tournaments he did, despite being defeated so often?  He did though manage to win Dubai and get to the semis at RG, so who knows what might have happened if the hip problem hadn't flared up at such an inopportune moment.

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Todd Woodbridge tweets Andy has "ruined the US Open."  Rolling Eyes Unfortunately echoing lots of bile I've been reading on the net.
Hope Fedal falls in the first week  yay
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Todd Woodbridge tweets Andy has "ruined the US Open."  Rolling Eyes Unfortunately echoing lots of bile I've been reading on the net.
Hope Fedal falls in the first week  yay


Hmph!  In other words with Nadal as No 1 and Fed as No 2,  we might as well have skipped the  rest of the tournament and just had the final.   Often some of the best matches take place long before the final.  If Andy had pulled out earlier these people would still have had something to moan about.
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