[nikko]

^ He will have that op and try to come back some day if he has the opportunity. (edit : I guess)

[Aileen]

I don't think that's going to happen - but I admire the sentiment.  To be honest, I'd rather he put his efforts into coaching.  He's a great human being and I believe his honest skills and smarts will be of great benefit to others.

I don't think he will either, but Andy's such an enigma nothing would surprise me.   

[marathonarthur]

^  I think we all should accept that his 'have an operation and come back to AO again' drift was somewhat a reaction to playing so well today. After thought he will regret saying that as the considered Andy does seem to realise that his body is too broken to compete at the very highest level.

I am keen to know now if he is considering resting/recovering and possibly playing ATP events to prepare for his preferred retirement venue at Wimbledon. As the commentators said 'his whole team might be needed to get him out of bed in the morning after this match'. I do wonder how he will feel tomorrow.
I think if he wants as good a performance at Wimbledon then he needs to play smart, not too much, not too little. In all sport this is hard to achieve as once in the competitive arena broken bones, twisted muscles and pain just evaporates as the brain takes control. Bodies can take a lot of punishment in this mode.

I would like to see him play some easier matches to keep match fit in preparation for the grass court farewell.  Today was epic as he showed the natural ability with some wonderful shots and his determination by fighting back from two sets down.

Well done Andy for today and all your years participating giving us such pleasure!

PS  I see GB's post on the other thread that Andy has already given some sort of idea how he intends to make it to Wimbledon on BBC radio. Sorry I missed that interview. Best we wait at least a week before anything becomes an actual plan? He needs to see the body's reaction to today's effort first.

[flowerpower]

 :cmon:I've lots of memories of (trying to watch or) watching Murray, encouraging my phone watching live scores, walking on a camp site at night to find Wifi (Washington this year). Downloading illigal streams to watch with a lot of mess as result on my laptop, reading your posts on MW with the scores. Behind, on, before the couch... and live on beautifull moments in from Melbourne,  to The Davis Cup final. What a journey it was

[Ruthie]

Not sure what I think about the NY surgeon , who gave Bob Bryan in effect a new hip, and who has been talking to the press saying he can perform miracles and get Andy back to top tennis.  I don't want him to be giving Andy false hope and it seems wrong to be talking about it publicly anyway.  But it does sound like he'd be a good person to do the op and I think Andy should have it done now and not think about playing Wimbledon again because, as I said on the news thread, I don't think any further farewell match would really match the one he's just played and it would be awful if he was well beaten by someone not in his class (or he could go out to a top seed in first round). 

[Ruthie]

I read somewhere - I think in reports of his session with the British media after his match - that he acknowledged he'd trained too hard at times during his career and there were times when his body was sore he should have just said no.  Reminds me of  those who wrote on MW at start of 2017 that Lendl had pushed him way too hard during the off season after his amazing run at end of 2016.  Can't help but wonder where he'd be now had that not happened.   It may be he would have been able to continue managing his hip in the way he'd done up till then.  Instead he wrecked his body.  Of course Andy could have said no but he's his own worst enemy when it comes to working hard and a mindful coach would have said take a break and then would have gradually worked back up to the usual training schedule rather than go in even harder.  I know it's water under the bridge but it made me sad when I read that.  Forgot to mention it at the time.

[moonglow]

I read somewhere - I think in reports of his session with the British media after his match - that he acknowledged he'd trained too hard at times during his career and there were times when his body was sore he should have just said no.  Reminds me of  those who wrote on MW at start of 2017 that Lendl had pushed him way too hard during the off season after his amazing run at end of 2016.  Can't help but wonder where he'd be now had that not happened.   It may be he would have been able to continue managing his hip in the way he'd done up till then.  Instead he wrecked his body.  Of course Andy could have said no but he's his own worst enemy when it comes to working hard and a mindful coach would have said take a break and then would have gradually worked back up to the usual training schedule rather than go in even harder.  I know it's water under the bridge but it made me sad when I read that.  Forgot to mention it at the time.

I think a few of us said (in 2018 though) that Lendl was expecting Andy to train too much and too often.  I never thought Lendl was the right coach for Andy but Andy seemed happy with him!  But all that excessive work wouldn't have helped Andy's hip and could possibly have made it worse.  But it's in the past now and I do agree that Andy would have worked very hard whichever coach he had chosen.
& incidentally Lendl is now coaching Alexander Zverev.  I don't know if Lendl is helping Sasha really as Sascha didn't do very well at the AO and lacks best of 5 set match practice.  I wonder if Sascha will change his coach and also I wonder whether Lendl is making him work too hard, much the same as with Andy?

[Ruthie]

moonglow I too have wondered that about Sasha Z.  Moreover Jez Green is part of the team and I seem to remember some people thought he'd not helped Andy's back with his training methods.  If I were SZ I'd think hard as to whether there are lessons to learn from what has happened to Andy.