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michelle
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Quote from: Ruthie on December 31, 2014, 07:04 pm
But I note that in the interview posted on another thread Andy expresses a preference for someone based in either Miami or London.  Got the feeling that Courteau may not quite be what he's looking for even though Amelie favours him.  Anyway, we'll see.
Courteau did say that Andy would like him to be based in London. So this does not mean that he is out of the running. Little tongue man
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Aileen
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Quote from: michelle on December 31, 2014, 09:12 pm
: Courteau did say that Andy would like him to be based in London. So this does not mean that he is out of the running. Little tongue man
That's good to know Michelle, and, as Amelie's former coach, his appointment would make sense, but as always Andy will be keeping things close to his chest until he's well and truly ready to make an announcement, but whoever he chooses, we should respect that decision.

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Milly87
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The right person who's wanting to work with Andy maybe willing to be in London/Miami as required...I'm thinking of people like Mark Petchey, Leon Smith etc.

My wild cards would be Nigel Sears and Jamie Delgado, the latter, from
what I can remember, was helping Andy train in London before the Asia swing.

All four have good knowledge of the game, understand the demands of the tour, are familiar with Andy and his needs...and I'm assuming they have it in them to take direction from Amelie if Andy trusts her so much.
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Aileen
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I'm not sure that having his future father-in-law as a coach would be a good idea, also Nigel seems to prefer coaching women.  You're right though about Delgado but at the moment he's coaching Gilles Muller, who is also his current doubles partner - http://www.express.co.uk/sport/tennis/484807/Jamie-Delgado-just-loves-to-keep-coming-back
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amongsttheleaves
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As posted by xxdanixx and michelle on other threads it has been announced that Jonas Bjorkman will be starting a week long trial period as Andy's second coach as soon as he gets himself voted off Sweden's version of Strictly Come Dancing.

This is going to be interesting and will hopefully work out well for Andy and his team - the combination of Amelie and Bjorkman would really reinforce the sort of attacking, coming forward, using the net more game that many of us want, whilst Amelie 'gets' Andy's defensive play she also greatly understands (as Andy well knows) the importance of coming forward more.

Both Amelie and Jonas were good all-court, all-surface, players.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/31833903

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/mar/11/andy-murray-add-jonas-bjorkman-coaching-team?CMP=share_btn_tw

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-2989559/Jonas-Bjorkman-line-Andy-Murray-s-new-assistant-coach-former-world-No-4-join-Brit-s-team-trial-week.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

http://sport.bt.com/more-sport-hub/more-sport/murray-to-work-with-bjorkman-S11363967522622
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amongsttheleaves
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Interesting bits of info via Stuart Fraser on Twitter:

Stuart Fraser @stu_fraser
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Andy Murray and Jonas Bjorkman did once play each other on tour, the Brit winning their 2007 US Open second-round match in five sets.

Stuart Fraser @stu_fraser
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Jonas Bjorkman also took on Andy Murray twice in doubles, once at Queen's in 2008. The Brit's partner that day: Dani Vallverdu.
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CMK29
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Well Jonas is excited anyway! https://instagram.com/p/0FtKBrRlQT/

Don't really remember much about him as a player. I know this is just a trial, anything could happen, but any views on what he could bring to the table?
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amongsttheleaves
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And here's what Bjorkman has to say about it on Twitter/Instagram

@bjorkmantennis
I'm super excited and I'm really looking forward to join @andymurray and his team for a test week, which we both hope will lead to joining the team permanently!
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flowerpower
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Nice news!! Good for his team.
Enough to find on youtube about Bjorkman. Knows current players from his own career...
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amongsttheleaves
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Quote from: CMK29 on March 11, 2015, 01:36 pm
Well Jonas is excited anyway! https://instagram.com/p/0FtKBrRlQT/

Don't really remember much about him as a player. I know this is just a trial, anything could happen, but any views on what he could bring to the table?

We posted that at the same time, you got in there first though, so my apologies!  

Not keen on the term 'brings to the table', but I know what you are asking. My view is that Bjorkman compliments much of what Amelie's style, skill set and knowledge base is. Together they reinforce coming forward, net play, serve and volley, etc. Both are calm people who had a great deal of variety in their games.

Both had good serves - no way a player can serve and volley behind pretty much every first serve at Wimbledon (as Amelie did) without a good first serve. Jonas had a solid serve and might be able to offer additional input to the work that Amelie has already done with Andy over the off-season and in the run up to the AO.

Jonas, like Andy, had a great two-handed backhand, and was very strong on return (some would argue even better than Andy) and Andy has talked about working on strengths as well as weaknesses. There have been times over the last 6 months when Andy's return game has faltered, and it is my opinion that he lives and dies by his return game. Yes his serve is vulnerable, but if the cornerstone of his game falls away he can lose horribly as we saw vs Coric.

Jonas, like Amelie, strikes me as a genuine, honest person, who will collaborate, listen and ask the right questions. The only significant personality difference I can see is that Jonas might be a little more 'public' - Amelie is pretty private beyond her work and not going to be turning up on reality TV! Other posters may disagree but this isn't about bringing in someone entirely different to Amelie, but staying within that same approach, complementing it, but perhaps offering a different view point when required.
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michelle
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Jonas, like Andy, had a great two-handed backhand, and was very strong on return (some would argue even better than Andy) and Andy has talked about working on strengths as well as weaknesses. There have been times over the last 6 months when Andy's return game has faltered, and it is my opinion that he lives and dies by his return game. Yes his serve is vulnerable, but if the cornerstone of his game falls away he can lose horribly as we saw vs Coric.

Jonas, like Amelie, strikes me as a genuine, honest person, who will collaborate, listen and ask the right questions. The only significant personality difference I can see is that Jonas might be a little more 'public' - Amelie is pretty private beyond her work and not going to be turning up on reality TV! Other posters may disagree but this isn't about bringing in someone entirely different to Amelie, but staying within that same approach, complimenting it, but perhaps offering a different view point when required.
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 Good posting!
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CMK29
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Quote from: amongsttheleaves on March 11, 2015, 01:50 pm
We posted that at the same time, you got in there first though, so my apologies! 

Not keen on the term 'brings to the table', but I know what you are asking. My view is that Bjorkman compliments much of what Amelie's style, skill set and knowledge base is. Together they reinforce coming forward, net play, serve and volley, etc. Both are calm people who had a great deal of variety in their games.

Both had good serves - no way a player can serve and volley behind pretty much every first serve at Wimbledon (as Amelie did) without a good first serve. Jonas had a solid serve and might be able to offer additional input to the work that Amelie has already done with Andy over the off-season and in the run up to the AO.

Jonas, like Andy, had a great two-handed backhand, and was very strong on return (some would argue even better than Andy) and Andy has talked about working on strengths as well as weaknesses. There have been times over the last 6 months when Andy's return game has faltered, and it is my opinion that he lives and dies by his return game. Yes his serve is vulnerable, but if the cornerstone of his game falls away he can lose horribly as we saw vs Coric.

Jonas, like Amelie, strikes me as a genuine, honest person, who will collaborate, listen and ask the right questions. The only significant personality difference I can see is that Jonas might be a little more 'public' - Amelie is pretty private beyond her work and not going to be turning up on reality TV! Other posters may disagree but this isn't about bringing in someone entirely different to Amelie, but staying within that same approach, complimenting it, but perhaps offering a different view point when required.

Great minds think alike - don't ever aplogise for being a great mind  Whistle
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amongsttheleaves
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Quote from: michelle on March 11, 2015, 02:24 pm
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Jonas, like Andy, had a great two-handed backhand, and was very strong on return (some would argue even better than Andy) and Andy has talked about working on strengths as well as weaknesses. There have been times over the last 6 months when Andy's return game has faltered, and it is my opinion that he lives and dies by his return game. Yes his serve is vulnerable, but if the cornerstone of his game falls away he can lose horribly as we saw vs Coric.

Jonas, like Amelie, strikes me as a genuine, honest person, who will collaborate, listen and ask the right questions. The only significant personality difference I can see is that Jonas might be a little more 'public' - Amelie is pretty private beyond her work and not going to be turning up on reality TV! Other posters may disagree but this isn't about bringing in someone entirely different to Amelie, but staying within that same approach, complimenting it, but perhaps offering a different view point when required.


 Good posting!

Thanks.

Am I the only one finding the difference in the reporting between Bjorkman's trial-with-a-view-to-permanent appointment, and Amelie's back in June last year, weirdly one-sided and blinkered?

Almost all the things I'm seeing published about Bjorkman's strength's in his game also happen to be Amelie's strengths... all-court game, all-surface game, attacking game, net game/coming forward, serve-and-volley, variety, tactics, calmness... And people behaving as if now a doubles specialist is joining the team Andy will 'finally' get a net game. Have people not noticed that a) Andy has a net game but it got a bit buried, and b) Amelie has actually been working on that with him already - there are videos and photos, even yesterday, first day out on court with her for a month and he's up at the net.

Yet the difference in sentiment is: Amelie (with two singles GS titles, and a whole host of other singles and doubles titles) = 'mentally weak, woman, no idea what Andy is doing' while Jonas (with a great many doubles titles inc 9 GS, - not taking anything away from him, but there are two players in a doubles partnership) = 'excellent choice'.

Also a lot of misleading headlines which (wrongly) suggest Bjorkman is somehow a replacement for Amelie, so there a number of people on social media who don't read stuff properly who have decided that Andy is ditching or will ditch Amelie - yet his commitment to working with her is clear. The headlines should say second/assistant/deputy coach.

Stupidity born of laziness, or even worse wilful stupidity, just annoys me. Apologies for the rant!
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plj
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ATL, Don't apologize. You're absolutely right.
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blueberryhill
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Have had a good think and.....I approve! Andy will be so pleased Wink
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