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Re: Madrid R3: Andy Murray vs Gilles Simon
« on: May 10, 2013, 12:38 am »
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I think Andy will play miles better vs Berdych though as he normally raises his game against the big boys. Berdych is favorite imo, but I wouldnt be suprised to see a totally different Andy out there. also dont forget he has played him in alot of practice sets in Monte Carlo so will be familiar with Berdych's clay game.
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Re: Madrid R3: Andy Murray vs Gilles Simon
« on: May 10, 2013, 12:38 am »
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BBC are all over the place.
Apparently he's into the 4th round of Madrid... yeah it's called the quarter-finals.
Federer lost to some bloke called Nichikori.
They also have managed to find the worst ever action shot of Robson to use as their main picture for report of her match yesterday.
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Re: Madrid R3: Andy Murray vs Gilles Simon
« on: May 10, 2013, 12:42 am »
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Quote from: Masaka on May 10, 2013, 12:32 am
Even if Federer had won this tournament by getting to the QF he would have wrestled the No 2 spot back. I am pleased he has done it in his own right.
I'm really pleased about that too.
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Re: Madrid R3: Andy Murray vs Gilles Simon
« on: May 10, 2013, 12:44 am »
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Not before 7pm (UK). They could have at least put him on last, after tonight's marathon! I feel I should stick a fiver on Berdych - that way, Murray is guaranteed to win!
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Re: Madrid R3: Andy Murray vs Gilles Simon
« on: May 10, 2013, 12:45 am »
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Thought he came out onto the court looking jaded and weary - so it wasn't a surprise that it turned into 'that sort of a match'
Would have liked Lendl to be there with an icy glare to keep him focussed. I'm now sceptical of hearing that it's "the mark of a champion to win when you're not playing well"
I want to see Andy winning a match by playing really well, like we know he can play. It seems so long since we've had a match win like that to celebrate.
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Re: Madrid R3: Andy Murray vs Gilles Simon
« on: May 10, 2013, 12:45 am »
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Quote from: TheMadHatter on May 10, 2013, 12:35 am
The frustrating thing is, this was one of the areas he improved so much. Something like 11 break points in the Olympic final - saved all 11. USO, the tie-break, the set points, the break points - played them all very well. But this year he seems to have fallen back to his old passive play on the big points, and his record lately has been very poor.
Confused - how many tournaments has he played this year? 3 Finals, One a GS against the world no 1, won a Masters 1000, and now got to the QF's on a surface he struggles with. I can't see that as a poor record.
Remember his game is still evolving. How do you think I Ferrer felt after the Miami final or Simon tonight? Feel for him, he must weep when he sees he is in Mr M's part of the draw.
Yes probably Berdych will beat him - the guy that Djokovic slaughters for fun, the guy that lost in the first round of the Olympics, and the Semi of the US Open. I can live with that. I think getting to the QF's was the important thing to achieve in this tournament, just as defeating Ded was at the AO. Sometimes the processes involved in getting through tournaments can be as valuable as winning them.
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Re: Madrid R3: Andy Murray vs Gilles Simon
« on: May 10, 2013, 12:48 am »
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Confused - how many tournaments has he played this year? 3 Finals, One a GS against the world no 1, won a Masters 1000, and now got to the QF's on a surface he struggles with. I can't see that as a poor record.
Remember his game is still evolving. How do you think I Ferrer felt after the Miami final or Simon tonight? Feel for him, he must weep when he sees he is in Mr M's part of the draw.
Yes probably Berdych will beat him - the guy that Djokovic slaughters for fun, the guy that lost in the first round of the Olympics, and the Semi of the US Open. I can live with that. I think getting to the QF's was the important thing to achieve in this tournament, just as defeating Ded was at the AO. Sometimes the processes involved in getting through tournaments can be as valuable as winning them.
Quote from: Joe on May 10, 2013, 12:44 am
Not before 7pm (UK). They could have at least put him on last, after tonight's marathon! I feel I should stick a fiver on Berdych - that way, Murray is guaranteed to win!
Nuts!
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Re: Madrid R3: Andy Murray vs Gilles Simon
« on: May 10, 2013, 12:51 am »
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Quote from: Masaka on May 10, 2013, 12:45 am
Confused - how many tournaments has he played this year? 3 Finals, One a GS against the world no 1, won a Masters 1000, and now got to the QF's on a surface he struggles with. I can't see that as a poor record.
Remember his game is still evolving. How do you think I Ferrer felt after the Miami final or Simon tonight? Feel for him, he must weep when he sees he is in Mr M's part of the draw.
Yes probably Berdych will beat him - the guy that Djokovic slaughters for fun, the guy that lost in the first round of the Olympics, and the Semi of the US Open. I can live with that. I think getting to the QF's was the important thing to achieve in this tournament, just as defeating Ded was at the AO. Sometimes the processes involved in getting through tournaments can be as valuable as winning them.
Yes, you've completely missed my point.
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Re: Madrid R3: Andy Murray vs Gilles Simon
« on: May 10, 2013, 12:51 am »
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Jonathan Overend‏@5livetennis3m
Just interviewed Murray warming down on the bike in his locker room. Not pretty, he admitted, and sleep at probably 4am. But a winner.
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Re: Madrid R3: Andy Murray vs Gilles Simon
« on: May 10, 2013, 12:52 am »
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Quote from: TheMadHatter on May 10, 2013, 12:35 am
The frustrating thing is, this was one of the areas he improved so much. Something like 11 break points in the Olympic final - saved all 11. USO, the tie-break, the set points, the break points - played them all very well. But this year he seems to have fallen back to his old passive play on the big points, and his record lately has been very poor.
I agree with his tendencies to throw away break points during the course of a match.... BUT... the difference I see with Andy is that even when he does that he gets himself together when it really counts... I think he is very good at playing tie breakers. I see alot of similarities with Andy and Djoko....and they both have that winning mentality.
Dunno why some folks on here are saying that its a given that he will lose to Berdych. I dont think that at all. Firstly Berdych isnt in the best of form so far this year...and Andy has beaten him before ... so I think he has every chance of winning that one. Berdych has a tendency to implode against Andy...Andy will have to play better tennis than today... but we all know he can...so lets see.
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Re: Madrid R3: Andy Murray vs Gilles Simon
« on: May 10, 2013, 12:54 am »
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Maria Sharapova won a tournament recently playing four three setters row. She somehow managed to win the tournament when she looked out of it. Andy is in fighting mood at the moment. So who knows. Onwards and Upwards.
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Re: Madrid R3: Andy Murray vs Gilles Simon
« on: May 10, 2013, 12:55 am »
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Yes, you've completely missed my point.
Sorry very late, brain packed up. Perhaps you can explain it at bit more simplistically (but tomorrow), was not intending to be confrontational. I am puzzled by the poor record bit.
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Re: Madrid R3: Andy Murray vs Gilles Simon
« on: May 10, 2013, 12:59 am »
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Why do people insist on bringing up useless stats during a match? he converted blah blah points compared to a year ago etc etc, the most important stat is he won, what would you prefer? Andy playing poorly but winning or having better BP conversion but losing? Not every match is going to be the same as the last one.
Like Lendl said countless times, the most important point in a match is the last one
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Re: Madrid R3: Andy Murray vs Gilles Simon
« on: May 10, 2013, 01:02 am »
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Quote from: laundry on May 10, 2013, 12:34 am
Well this is gonna be a tough tourney to win. Berdych, Tsonga/Wawrinka, Nadal
I'm hoping Tsonga will beat Wawrinka at least. Andy will still be bookie favourite against Berdych tomorrow though.
Yes, tough road ahead but I don't think Andy should worry about either Tsonga or Wawrinka ( they both had to play 3 setters today as well and this itself is a tough match not to mention, so should be plenty knackered by the time one of them reaches the semi) at this point. As to Berdych, he had to work hard in each round as well and I don't think Andy will make it easier for him. This is begging a 50/50 IMO right now. Somehow I expect Andy to come through however. If he wins then this will not only finally give him a win over a top ten player after a long time, but also beating all these players Mayer, Simon, Berdych, who are very good players on clay btw, will be extremely rewarding for Andy. Not to mention the confidence boost it will give him. It's about time Andy takes it to next level.
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