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MC R3 - Murray vs Fognini
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Quote from: Sir Panda on April 16, 2009, 05:10 pm
I agree, grass has it's specialist field as well, but the grass season lasts like a month, the clay season lasts 2 months and has 3 MSs, and that's just the European swing! You have all the South American ones at the start of the year, and some more clay tournaments after Wimbledon like Kitzuhbel and Umag, madness.

Yeah, those little clay tournaments going on outside the main clay season are wierd. I don't mind the South American tourneys in February so much as at least there's a bit of a swing involved. There should be no clay after the French open though IMO.
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Marc
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Quote from: Sir Panda on April 16, 2009, 05:06 pm
Quick question to everyone, does anyone here rank clay as their favourite surface?
No it's my least favourite
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Sir Panda
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Quote from: top_spin on April 16, 2009, 05:11 pm

Will you get off my back now? :P

Every surface produces entertaining matches, that means the square root of fook all. Wink

Still waiting to watch a great match this week. Frown
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Sir Panda
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I think that's it for today folks. Frown

Two matches for Nalbandian or Davydenko, and Rafa or Lapentti tomorrow, ouch.
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Neil
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Quote from: Sir Panda on April 16, 2009, 05:10 pm
I agree, grass has it's specialist field as well, but the grass season lasts like a month, the clay season lasts 2 months and has 3 MSs, and that's just the European swing! You have all the South American ones at the start of the year, and some more clay tournaments after Wimbledon like Kitzuhbel and Umag, madness.

Grass isn't as specialist as it once was. Lost a lot of it's speed at Wimbly for a start which made it good to play on. Oh well....
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Quote from: Sir Panda on April 16, 2009, 05:15 pm
I think that's it for today folks. Frown

Two matches for Nalbandian or Davydenko, and Rafa or Lapentti tomorrow, ouch.
Surely they should be using the court that's covered to avoid doing that.
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Quote from: Sir Panda on April 16, 2009, 05:15 pm
I think that's it for today folks. Frown

Two matches for Nalbandian or Davydenko, and Rafa or Lapentti tomorrow, ouch.

Lets hope Fat Dave and Davydenko have a slug fest first thing out and Andy finishes up 7-6 6-0.
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top_spin
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Quote from: Sir Panda on April 16, 2009, 05:13 pm
Every surface produces entertaining matches, that means the square root of fook all. Wink

Still waiting to watch a great match this week. Frown

Everyone's answer to do you like clay is always no, there are too many tournaments played on it. That's not a reason? Surely the response would be the same if the grass season had 3 MSs.  And I don't agree that clay specialists have it good, most of the hard courts are getting faster and with the growing importance of GSs, points wise, only 1/4 slams actually favour the clay guys. You can fook off yourself Wink
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Sir Panda
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Quote from: nkp2 on April 16, 2009, 05:16 pm
Grass isn't as specialist as it once was. Lost a lot of it's speed at Wimbly for a start which made it good to play on. Oh well....

I agree, but there's still a number of players who don't know to maximise movement efficiency on it. Watch something like Massu vs Murray in 2006 and see how Massu can't stay on his feet.
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Sir Panda
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Quote from: top_spin on April 16, 2009, 05:20 pm
Everyone's answer to do you like clay is always no, there are too many tournaments played on it. That's not a reason? Surely the response would be the same if the grass season had 3 MSs.  And I don't agree that clay specialists have it good, most of the hard courts are getting faster and with the growing importance of GSs, points wise, only 1/4 slams actually favour the clay guys. You can fook off yourself Wink

Of course it's a reason, if you're sick of seeing too many tournaments on it, it's a valid reason.

Hardcourt is the most all round surface, and hardcourts can vary quite a bit in speed and bounce. Rebound Ace, the old AO surface was quite different from the DecoTurf they use at the USO in terms of reaction to spin and pace. So despite it being categorised as a hardcourt, the tennis can take different forms on a differently painted hardcourt.

Clay can keep people like Oscar Hernandez, Diego Junquiera, Eduardo Schwank in the top 100, they can almost create a year-round schedule on the clay, it's ridiculous.
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top_spin
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I know hardcourts vary greatly, what's your point? DecoTurf evidently favours serve-and-volleyers due to its low bouncing nature, they use it at the USO as you said and Cincy, Montreal and a few of the other US Series events, that's more than enough non? I think the ATP should try having a few tournmants on green clay, it's supposed to be faster than the red stuff and the WTA have a few tournaments on it in the US. Ah well, I don't actually know why the clay season is as long as it is, one thing I do wish is that Queens was a MS Smile
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Sir Panda
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Ideally, it would be 3months/3 months/3 months/3 months (hardcourt, clay, grass, indoor/carpet) but I don't think that's possible. no
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Quote from: Sir Panda on April 16, 2009, 06:09 pm
Ideally, it would be 3months/3 months/3 months/3 months (hardcourt, clay, grass, indoor/carpet) but I don't think that's possible. no


The ATP are pussies. If I had it my way, they'd play all year round on my favourite surface: lava.
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Sir Panda
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I still think ice is a playable surface.

My ballet style would propel me into the top 10.
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Clydey
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Quote from: Sir Panda on April 16, 2009, 06:13 pm
I still think ice is a playable surface.

My ballet style would propel me into the top 10.

We should create our own tour. Special ice skates for ice court tennis.

I'm a great lava court player. No real footwear for lava, though. We play in bare feet.
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