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Re: Miami R3: Andy Murray vs Grigor Dimitrov
« on: March 28, 2016, 11:51 pm »
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Quote from: doublebagel on March 28, 2016, 11:45 pm
His mind is a great mystery right now.
I applaud him for trying different things though, and for usually recognising when they aren't working.
I think Andy's mind has long been a mystery to a lot of people, but I'd rather he tried things out now than during a Slam. Also part of the trouble could be that he didn't get the chance to play a warm-up tournament before the Masters. However as I said earlier, I really think he would have been better to have skipped IW and given himself more time to adjust to being a father.
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Re: Miami R3: Andy Murray vs Grigor Dimitrov
« on: March 28, 2016, 11:52 pm »
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How I love people who are so quick to write Andy off just because he's going through a sticky spell. Are you always perfect all the time?
Of course no one expects perfection but my 2 favourite players, Andy and Rafa is both showing signs of decline it's worrying. It not may not be the prettiest tennis Andy played during his 'peak years' in 2012-13 under Lendl, but you can't deny he was a winning machine made of sterner stuff back then. That is what Novak is like, whether he possesses less talent than Andy and Roger or not.
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Re: Miami R3: Andy Murray vs Grigor Dimitrov
« on: March 28, 2016, 11:55 pm »
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Quote from: flowerpower on March 28, 2016, 11:51 pm
It's such a shame. His game was poor, he behaved himself badly. Mentally weak. (First game three break points, en lost 5 points in a row, got a break en lost his serve immediately , lost two times his serve in the second set, from 3-1 to 3-6 in set 3???????) Dimitrov didn't play well. The draw was all open now till the final. I looked forward to Miami, hoping for some good matches. I know he care, but he looks like he doesn't.
He was leading 3-1 in the third set? Oh come on, Andy!
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Re: Miami R3: Andy Murray vs Grigor Dimitrov
« on: March 28, 2016, 11:55 pm »
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Seriously needs to sort his head out, mental blocks have crippled his progress.
I don't see him winning slams until he addressed the mentality issue.
As for coaching issues, I can't imagine Delgado as a friend has it in him to tell it as it is. Mauresmo isn't the issue, she needs to step up and fix the stuff between the ears.
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Re: Miami R3: Andy Murray vs Grigor Dimitrov
« on: March 28, 2016, 11:57 pm »
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His on court demeanour suggests that he doesn't want to play tennis right now. He's only number 2 still because Fed has been out.
Maybe tennis will never be important to him again? I hope so, but we should be prepared to accept it.
I must admit that that unhappy thought did cross my mind, but given a little more time I would hope that he'll be able to get a better perspective on things.
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Re: Miami R3: Andy Murray vs Grigor Dimitrov
« on: March 28, 2016, 11:59 pm »
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It's disappointing to see such a poor attitude from your favourite sportsman.
I can't see what impact Mauresmo is having though. Can anyone else? Seriously?
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Re: Miami R3: Andy Murray vs Grigor Dimitrov
« on: March 29, 2016, 12:01 am »
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You miss the point again. I'm pointing out that his current form didn't just happen in IW and Miami. He hasn't looked great since DC last year.
We all watch the matches. We can see when he is playing well and when he is not. We don't need to have it pointed out to us ad nauseam. When a woman goes on in the same vein all the time it's called narking. Well it seems men can nark also. I don't know if you are a man but most of them are, I believe, of the male persuasion.
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Re: Miami R3: Andy Murray vs Grigor Dimitrov
« on: March 29, 2016, 12:02 am »
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It's about time Kim was telling him to get his act together because he's in great danger of becoming a has been and that's real sad .
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Re: Miami R3: Andy Murray vs Grigor Dimitrov
« on: March 29, 2016, 12:04 am »
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It's disappointing to see such a poor attitude from your favourite sportsman.
I can't see what impact Mauresmo is having though. Can anyone else? Seriously?
Last year was Andy's most consistent ever. He got to number 2 in the world. He got to the final of the AO, the semis of the French Open and Wimbledon, and to the AO final this year. Whatever this is, I don't think it's about Amelie per se. It's completely mental and it's about Andy's head. I think maybe he should talk to a shrink—not a sports psychologist, but a proper psychiatrist. Something's going on.
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Re: Miami R3: Andy Murray vs Grigor Dimitrov
« on: March 29, 2016, 12:05 am »
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It's disappointing to see such a poor attitude from your favourite sportsman.
I can't see what impact Mauresmo is having though. Can anyone else? Seriously?
I take it you don't remember the awful 2010 post-AO slump that lasted until well into the season, because that really was depressing.
Don't start the 'Amerlie's useless' stuff, because there's a limit to what a coach can do since it's up to the player himself to sort things out during matches.
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Re: Miami R3: Andy Murray vs Grigor Dimitrov
« on: March 29, 2016, 12:07 am »
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Last year was Andy's most consistent ever. He got to number 2 in the world. He got to the final of the AO, the semis of the French Open and Wimbledon, and to the AO final this year. Whatever this is, I don't think it's about Amelie per se. It's completely mental and it's about Andy's head. I think maybe he should talk to a shrink—not a sports psychologist, but a proper psychiatrist. Something's going on.
That sounds a fairly sensible idea because it could be that he's having problems balancing his life between his family and his tennis, so he could possibly do with some expert help. Not sure though that a psychiatrist is the right person because I don't think he's mentally ill, just a bit confused, so a psychologist (not a sports one) would be the better option to me anyway, and god knows I've had enough experience of both myself so I do know what I'm talking about.
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Re: Miami R3: Andy Murray vs Grigor Dimitrov
« on: March 29, 2016, 12:08 am »
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Last year was Andy's most consistent ever. He got to number 2 in the world. He got to the final of the AO, the semis of the French Open and Wimbledon, and to the AO final this year. Whatever this is, I don't think it's about Amelie per se. It's completely mental and it's about Andy's head. I think maybe he should talk to a shrink—not a sports psychologist, but a proper psychiatrist. Something's going on.
But no slam. Sorry to point that out, but that's what it comes down to. The history books don't mention consistent years.
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Re: Miami R3: Andy Murray vs Grigor Dimitrov
« on: March 29, 2016, 12:08 am »
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I must admit that that unhappy thought did cross my mind, but given a little more time I would hope that he'll be able to get a better perspective on things.
He doesn't look as if he is enjoying his time on court at the moment. Strange match altogether. To start with it looked like Dimi wanted Andy to win....then Andy wanted Dimi to win.......then Dimi couldn't believe his luck when he actually did win. Comms ultra positive about Dimi....Petch saying he's still only 24 and Andy will be 29 this year. I haven't checked it but I'm pretty sure Dimi will be 25 the day after Andy is 29. They do get carried away sometimes.
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Re: Miami R3: Andy Murray vs Grigor Dimitrov
« on: March 29, 2016, 12:11 am »
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I take it you don't remember the awful 2010 post-AO slump that lasted until well into the season, because that really was depressing.
Don't start the 'Amerlie's useless' stuff, because there's a limit to what a coach can do since it's up to the player himself to sort things out during matches.
I do remember 2010. I never said Amelie was useless, and I don't think she is. But presumably he hired her to help him win slams. Has he been close to winning one since 2013? Yes, he's got to some finals, but never really looked like winning, except at AO 2015. Does she have that specific something to help Andy get another slam?
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Re: Miami R3: Andy Murray vs Grigor Dimitrov
« on: March 29, 2016, 12:12 am »
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But no slam. Sorry to point that out, but that's what it comes down to. The history books don't mention consistent years.
That's not the point. What he WASN'T doing was collapsing in matches that he was perfectly capable of winning, which is what happened today and at Indian Wells. He won almost everything EXCEPT the endgames of slams.
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