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fuzzyballs
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You guys expect too much. Murray is looking good to be a solid top 50 player if he works very very hard, Gilbert should be able to help there. If he does not sort his consistency out though he will probably end up on the challeneger tour.
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Josh
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Andy should have gone up just one place to 35.
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XCW4EVA
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Lisnten Guys Don't get this twisted, There is no curse,
Andy just played badly, In all truthfulness he should beat a player of Gimelstob's standard,
His first serve is clearly to eratic for a top 50 player, and it doesn't matter how good his return is, he's not going to win many matches against the elite player if he is not holding his own serve,  And we can't say that his serves been good this week, He had one good match against Kendrick and the other matches he was broken numerous time sby other players, On Grass which should mean he gets broken less!!!
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murray mad
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Quote from: MurrayMountain91 on July 15, 2006, 10:53 pm
Are you joking?? Murray is better.. he has played 3 games in 2 days.  Andy is better. Andy has beaten Roddick twice and Hewitt
True, plus Andy fell during the match which was playing on his mind throughout the contest with Gimelstob, Andy on a good day could thrash Gimelstob, it just wasn't to be today.
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nads
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Quote from: XCW4EVA on July 15, 2006, 10:57 pm
Lisnten Guys Don't get this twisted, There is no curse,
Andy just played badly, In all truthfulness he should beat a player of Gimelstob's standard,
His first serve is clearly to eratic for a top 50 player, and it doesn't matter how good his return is, he's not going to win many matches against the elite player if he is not holding his own serve,  And we can't say that his serves been good this week, He had one good match against Kendrick and the other matches he was broken numerous time sby other players, On Grass which should mean he gets broken less!!!

Totally agree with the serve point. But then most commentators seem to agree that with age and experience comes consistency, so in that area time is on andy's side: does anyone know what Federer was like serve-wise when he was 19?
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rochelle
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come on guys ... lets not make excuses eg he fell. he played more matches yesterday. its the curse etc.... we were all complaining b4 about  kendrik saying he was ill as we were annoyed ... we are doing the same... i am a strong beliver in the best man on the day always wins
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nads
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Actually, having said that, this match serve was about equal, it was returns where Gimelstob had about 20% more...
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Quote from: nads on July 15, 2006, 11:00 pm
Totally agree with the serve point. But then most commentators seem to agree that with age and experience comes consistency, so in that area time is on andy's side: does anyone know what Federer was like serve-wise when he was 19?
Exactly and Nadal's serve wasn't that good either but his serve has improved alot over the years, like you said 'age and experience comes consistancy' so Razz
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nads
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Quote from: rochelle on July 15, 2006, 11:02 pm
come on guys ... lets not make excuses eg he fell. he played more matches yesterday. its the curse etc.... we were all complaining b4 about  kendrik saying he was ill as we were annoyed ... we are doing the same... i am a strong beliver in the best man on the day always wins

Although Kendrick took it to an extreme: he was still playing doubles today, so can't really be ill!.
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XCW4EVA
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In Singles You Have To Cover More Court than in Doubles
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Quote from: XCW4EVA on July 15, 2006, 11:06 pm
In Singles You Have To Cover More Court than in Doubles

That is fair enough, but no sportsman is stupid enough to play through an injury for such a long time: that could put the whole of the career at risk.
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Quote from: nads on July 15, 2006, 11:07 pm
That is fair enough, but no sportsman is stupid enough to play through an injury for such a long time: that could put the whole of the career at risk.
Look At Kendrick's ranking!!!! This May be his only chance to play an ATP tour event for the rest of this year, He needed to take this for the sake of his career
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Quote from: XCW4EVA on July 15, 2006, 11:08 pm
Look At Kendrick's ranking!!!! This May be his only chance to play an ATP tour event for the rest of this year, He needed to take this for the sake of his career

Not if its going to put him out for a couple of years, or even for good. Although being ill is a bit vague: there are some things (bad stomach, tiredness) through which one can play without too much consequence, but anything to do with bones and tendons, no, the long-term risk is too high. 
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Quote from: nads on July 15, 2006, 11:07 pm
That is fair enough, but no sportsman is stupid enough to play through an injury for such a long time: that could put the whole of the career at risk.
Yeah I agree, he said he wanted to finish it like a man but if you are injured and you carry on then it could get worse and end up ruining the rest of your career and I don't think he wanted that to happen, he saw Andy was playing better than him and thought that the perfect excuse is to say I'm injured, utter bull s**t if you ask me.
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Quote from: nads on July 15, 2006, 11:11 pm
Not if its going to put him out for a couple of years, or even for good. Although being ill is a bit vague: there are some things (bad stomach, tiredness) through which one can play without too much consequence, but anything to do with bones and tendons, no, the long-term risk is too high. 
IF it was a tendon thing he wouldn't be able to run, but it was obviously small enough for him to play, and the only thing we can say is that it was probably just Sour Grapes on Kendrick's part
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