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Gotta start somewhere...
We're talking about what is and has happened! In that case.. Nadal's going to become number 1 and win RG 3 times back to back. 
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arka
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He has not beaten any one of no.2 rightly, but has he not played a no.2 till now either.
And Nadal lost to someone below 50. Although that was on hard court. For some funny reason, that man is just the man Nadal plays in round 1 !
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Although that was on hard court.
We're talking about clay courts. Nadal's game is very different on hard court and grass. Andy hasn't had the chance... but by facts and figures Rafa's got this one in the bag. You have to admit that it's his best surface and if he can beat Roger Federer in a 4 setter on his first appearence to RG then think about it... Let's see if Andy proves me wrong.
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By no means would I suggest that Nadal would definitely beat Murray, or easily, but a betting man would go with the guy who's got the better record.
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arka
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In that case.. Nadal's going to become number 1 and win RG 3 times back to back.  Does the rules of fanaticism apply to only me then????
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Don't think anyone can claim that when we're on a FAN SITE! Ha ha. We all like to dream.
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John said "Gotta start somewhere...." Plus, i only said "in that case". Im not into the rules of fanatism.  I have an opinion, and that's usually dominated by logic. Fact and figures fall into that category. Look Arka. There's no point fighting about it. You think Andy will win, I think Rafa will win. Simple as.
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arka
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Julia I choose not to comment. Logic often does not work in sport and I think I gave a very very good example before that controversial thread was deleted. Dont ever want to argue with you 
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Julia I choose not to comment. Logic often does not work in sport and I think I gave a very very good example before that controversial thread was deleted.
That's a valid point.. but before i go saying how somone i hugely respect will beat someone ranked 39 places higher.. i look at facts. Dont ever want to argue with you  Great!  Me neither! We have out differences  ...makes it all the more interesting to discuss them! 
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MadSkaDude
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I'd love to see an upset, but Nadal is world number 2 and I think Andy's game won't hurt Nadal much. Andy has always had a hard time against people with low UE counts (Shutler, Hewitt - although he came through both, but Nadal is better), and the way to beat Nadal isn't with different spins (i mean Fed loses all the time to him), it's hard-hitting like Blake, Berdych etc.
My hope is that at least Murray can get a set here. You never know though, I'm still not sure if Nadal is back to his best after injury, and pehaps he'll be more rusty on clay than Andy.
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May not have heard of Goran Ivanisevic.- form arka
im goin to watch him in liverpool hopefully ( sorru just got me exsited)
i cant wait for this game can i just say . may the best man win on the day thats all i can do
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I really wish I watched tennis then. Anyway, enjoy yourself and get us loads of pics.
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Neil
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I still reckon PRESUMING both win their first round matches, that nadal will win in straight sets.
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I still reckon PRESUMING both win their first round matches, that nadal will win in straight sets.
doubt it somehow, Andy will I think atleast get a set out of it if not win it.
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I still reckon PRESUMING both win their first round matches, that nadal will win in straight sets.
Personally i would agree with that one. 
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