[teejay1]

Well said, TJ - and in response to the part I've highlighted, Andrew Cotter said pretty much the same thing, i.e. that Andy needed to be more patient against Stepanek who was trying to rush him, and unfortunately it worked.  I doubt though if many players could have coped with the way Stepanek was serving.

I do think Stepanek made Andy rush, for sure. I agree about the way Stepanek was serving though. I think that caught everyone by surprise, including Andy. I certainly can't remember ever seeing him serve quite that well.

People will go on about the fact that Andy's loss today is his first on grass since the Wimbledon 2012 final, which is fair enough. What they won't point out is that means that Andy has a grass win/loss ratio of 25 wins and just two losses in two years. In my eyes that still makes him the best grass court player in the world.

[benniebone]

Thanks TJ for finding something good to say re Andy  It was a dreadful performance but hopefully he can only do better at Wimbledon

[angiebabez]

So was Nadal Angie so he's not the only one. Andy's serve was shite today.

Yeah I did hear nadal was out mags. Although ive no interest in nadals results dont really care one way or the other 

[Alis]

3 out of 4 of the RG semi-finalists played on grass this week and went out in the first or second round - says it all really.  The fourth is sunning himself on holiday - perhaps Djoko is the only one with any sense!

On that happy note I will say 'adieu'.  There are some very interesting and insightful posters on this forum and I have really enjoyed reading your posts but I just can't be bothered with the negativity of the few any longer - life's too short.  Take care one and all!

[teejay1]

You have a point Aileen but there has to be a time where we stop using this as an excuse.

Prodigy, with all due respect, it isn't an excuse. Believe me when I tell you how hard recovering from any surgery can be, even without everything else Andy has been through. I've been under the knife a number of times in my life. It can take months to recover, both physically and emotionally, and I wasn't expected to play world class tennis right after.

Andy's been quite honest and open about his form and fitness since the surgery. We know he's had to take his training carefully to allow his back a chance to recover. We also know his back issues haven't magically gone away, but they are, according to Andy, much better.

I think Andy is having to learn to trust his body again. He was injured for two years, and you don't get over something like that quickly. For all we know Andy's injury could have been career threatening. It sounds like it was. I can't imagine him taking the risk of surgery (a risk to his career in itself) for something that could be managed without going under the knife. We know Andy tried everything he could before he resorted to surgery.

I agree with Aileen, I think a lot has gone on in the last 12 months, and none of it has been easy to deal with, but I have every faith that Andy will recover and get back to where he was.

[bubbles80]

Maybe but a drop down the rankings won't make it any easier for him.

all the more reason i will be prouder of him when he does do it xxx  he wants it no doubt or why bother with new coach xxx

[benniebone]

3 out of 4 of the RG semi-finalists played on grass this week and went out in the first or second round - says it all really.  The fourth is sunning himself on holiday - perhaps Djoko is the only one with any sense!

On that happy note I will say 'adieu'.  There are some very interesting and insightful posters on this forum and I have really enjoyed reading your posts but I just can't be bothered with the negativity of the few any longer - life's too short.  Take care one and all!

 I'm sorry you feel this way As you well know supporting Andy is always a roller coaster ride but
 I hope you change your mind and rejoin us in time for Wimbledon