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Yamor
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Quote from: TheMadHatter on November 06, 2016, 10:18 pm
He has to equal or better Djokovic at the O2 to stay number one.
It's technically possible for Djokovic to do better and for Andy to still stay top: If Djokovic beats Andy in the final, but Andy goes unbeaten in the group stages and Djokovic goes through with just one win.
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notnek
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It's now official:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/rankings/singles
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Fiverings
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Quote from: notnek on November 07, 2016, 08:26 am
It's now official:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/rankings/singles


Interesting that the average age of the top 10 is over 28 yrs, with four of them 30 or over, and only one under 25.
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Quote from: Yamor on November 06, 2016, 11:19 pm
It's technically possible for Djokovic to do better and for Andy to still stay top: If Djokovic beats Andy in the final, but Andy goes unbeaten in the group stages and Djokovic goes through with just one win.

It wouldn't because technically Novak with only 1 win would finish 2nd in the group and Andy would finish 1st because he was unbeaten. Therefore they would play in the Semis.
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Yamor
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You're right, I hadn't thought of that!
Unless a player in Djokovic's group pulls out, say after winning 2 matches, and his replacement wins the 3rd. In that case, all 4 players would have won 1 match, the replacement would be bottom for having played fewest matches, and Djokovic could end up top through sets/games percentage between the 3 players who have played all 3 matches.
But that's cheating, you're really correct.
(We could even have Andy entering a challenger the following week - I think there are still challengers then, no? - and make up enough points to get his lead over 200.)
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Quote from: amongsttheleaves on November 06, 2016, 09:28 pm

Would depend on what Djokovic does there, but if you deduct the 275 points from last year's Davis Cup final Andy's lead over him is 130 points, so it isn't much for the year end ranking and if Djokovic win's one match and Andy wins none then Djokovic gets the YE#1.
Quote from: TheMadHatter on November 06, 2016, 10:18 pm
He has to equal or better Djokovic at the O2 to stay number one.

You  two doesn''t agree? I forgot about the Davis cup points. I think ATL is right. Djoko has to defend 1500 points and Murray 300 besides the Davis Cup?

I would be great if he can end as Number 1 this year.
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amongsttheleaves
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FP, I'm working out a table to make things clearer, should have it up later tonight.
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Yamor
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Quote from: flowerpower on November 07, 2016, 06:11 pm
You  two doesn''t agree? I forgot about the Davis cup points. I think ATL is right. Djoko has to defend 1500 points and Murray 300 besides the Davis Cup?

I would be great if he can end as Number 1 this year.
They do agree. They're both saying the same thing!
Last year's WTF points have come off already, so after deducting the Davis Cup points, the ranking difference will be 130 points.
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Quote from: Matthew2408 on November 07, 2016, 11:13 am
It wouldn't because technically Novak with only 1 win would finish 2nd in the group and Andy would finish 1st because he was unbeaten. Therefore they would play in the Semis.
A different way would be if Andy wins all 3 group matches, and Djokovic gets through with only one win. Djokovic then beats Andy in the semis, but loses the final. Andy will stay ahead, even though Djokovic got further in the tournament.
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Quote from: Yamor on November 07, 2016, 12:50 pm
(We could even have Andy entering a challenger the following week - I think there are still challengers then, no? - and make up enough points to get his lead over 200.)
I'd have thought that, in the circumstances, Andy wouldn't be allowed to play in a Challenger, even if he wanted to, which I very much doubt, particularly as he'll be keen to have a break and then go to Miami for his winter training block.

Quote from: amongsttheleaves on November 07, 2016, 06:33 pm
FP, I'm working out a table to make things clearer, should have it up later tonight.
Thank you ATL because I too find the whole thing very confusing!
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ST Essex
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Even if he was allowed, Andy wouldn't play in a Challenger. He would be accused of vulturing of the highest order!
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Quote from: ST Essex on November 08, 2016, 02:57 pm
Even if he was allowed, Andy wouldn't play in a Challenger. He would be accused of vulturing of the highest order!
  He wouldn't waste his precious time doing that, guaranteed.
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Tamaragl
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Wow, that's brilliant. Really says it all.
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