At the risk of being jumped on, gnome was only expressing [perhaps more forcefully] what some of the rest of us say from time to time. In particular his points that some people react as if Andy were deliberately messing up at times in order to make them feel bad and what would Andy feel were he to read some of the insults. Of course we have free speech on the forum but with free speech comes responsibility and I do think we have responsibilities as fans of Andy. So thanks gnome for reminding people of them.
I appreciate your comments and those of others and i still stand by what i said despite one or two attempts at flaming me, sure i may have misquoted a few people but the point still stands regarding the over critical and harsh comments of a few people on here made during not only this match but others aswell.
Yes i may have been angry when i first commented, and no i do not agree that i have no right to "jump" into commenting in this forum, it's a forum i joined in good faith to add my support of Andy and share it with others who follow Andy on tour.
I read a lot of negative and insulting comments directed towards Andy on other sites like the ATP site and others like ESPN forum and bleachers, and yes i know there is a big difference in what people say on those forums as haters of AM to what people say on this forum as passionate supporters, but seeing comments on here about andy choking or that he has reverted to playing cautious like he did before his US open win, or even worse, that he is going to lose before he even picks up his racquet i just find too much, i would have thought people would have been happy with where Andy is right now in the tennis world.
My stance on this is all to due with keeping emotions in check, we have asked it of Andy, so why should we not ask it of ourselves? I do not want people to not be affected by watchimg him play, i don't expect people to come on here if Andy plays poorly and go "aww don't worry Andy we still lover you" like the sheep on federers fansites, what i was hoping to find was some common courtesy towards him. It's not like he's a crap player, and there is a reason we follow him right? surely the flawed genius part is the main reason we appreciate him. Like everyone else on here, i was tearing my hair out with frustration when Andy fails to capitalise on 5 mp's but unlike others i do not take this as a personal affront to me in my support, i don't shout at the screen telling him why do i even bother supporting you, and i certainly have no inclination to come onto a fansite and let everybody know that i think he is a choker because of it.
Maybe i am wrong to expect the same from others, maybe.
Let's look at the Asian swing:
It was apparant that he was feeling under the weather for the last fortnight, this was not being used as an excuse by him, he could have easily withdrawn from both events but he did not and managed a semi final and a final.
The 2 matches he lost he he had match points in both, sure it would have been better if he taken them all but he didn't, ranting and raving is not going to change that, the most important thing is that the only person who has to deal with this is Andy himself, not us but him, and judging by his post match comments, i think he is far more capable of that than he ever has been. I would rather Andy lose by close margins than get thrashed and bageled in his matches.
Andy is self critical enough without us adding to the mix, do people not think that he 100% felt much more angry with himself at not being able to convert 5 MP's than we were?
The 2 matches he lost were extremely close affairs, he pushed a fit and confident Djokovic to 3 sets and a match that lasted 3 hours and i feel Andy is the only player capable right now of doing that. He nearly made Federer smash his racquet in frustration and he made Nole do the same, Andy is playing such great tennis right now that the even the 2 top players in the world are getting frustrated by the way he forces them to play.
I may be taking offence too much to what get's said on here, and i appreciate that everybody is different to their approach to watching Andy play, i also appreciate that everybody here is a fan of his, but i also feel that the comments made sometimes leaves this website open to trolling and being shown in a bad light to people who are not members who may read what gets said here. This topic for instance is not private, anybody can read it, and i already know of one instance on the ESPN website where somebody quoted a comment from here a few months ago about how some of his own fans think he's a waste of space.
Anyway like i said, i can't change people's mind on how they write during match threads, but unfortunately i cannot bring myself to read them when a match is on which leaves me with having to check live scores on ATP site which is a shame because i really wanted to join in the discussion. I apologise if i offended anyone, but this is the way i see things and i will stand by my convictions and look forward to joining in on other topics with you all.