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Who will end the year as world number one?
Andy Murray - 14 (60.9%)
Novak Djokovic - 9 (39.1%)
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WTF 2016 Final: Andy Murray vs Novak Djokovic

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Yes, and I believe he underestimated Andy. I think he thought he was going to win or he wouldn't have played up the importance of the match beforehand.
I think Andy just loves to be underestimated.  It's what makes him tick.
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I'll put this in here because its relevant, but I came across this post on Mens Tennis Forums and I sort of see this as maybe being a suitable explanation...


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I'll put this in here because its relevant, but I came across this post on Mens Tennis Forums and I sort of see this as maybe being a suitable explanation...

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Sorry, but that's pretty much nonsense.  When his parents split, it was his father who was left to bring Andy and Jamie up, while it was Judy who mainly took them to and from matches, and of course watched them.  Fact - his Dad has always been around, and usually turns up at tournaments in the UK, but preferred to remain as unobtrusive as possible until he was eventually hauled into the limelight at Wimbledon.  Andy says he's always had a very good relationship with his father, so just because somebody isn't always a visible presence doesn't mean that they don't have an influence on you.  Also it's one thing having a father figure who you want to impress, but quite another to have a figure who makes you feel fearful of failure.  In fact I know people who have been left psychologically damaged because they had fathers, and even mothers, who were like that.   Maybe Lendl is a reassuring presence, but then so is Jamie Delgado, and Amelie Mauresmo before that, until Andy verbally abused her at the AO this year, something which undoubtedly led to her leaving him as a coach. 
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Tonedial, thanks for the video highlights
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Exactly right Aileen! Grrr! These idiots who let opinion get in the way of fact. More Grrrrrrrr!
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The Joker saying he played poorly today when Andy played so well is like me saying my car ran out of fuel because it was raining. He lost because Andy outplayed him. End of.  Whistle   Rolling Eyes
He did make some incredible mishits though - but still well outclassed overall this time.
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It's interesting.. - In his book (when he was 21) Andy says that although he might swear on the tennis court, he still would never swear in front of his dad. He also mentions how the stuff his father told him and the discipline he gave him when he was younger helped him to fend for himself when he went to Spain.

I think the similarity of realationship with Lendl lies in the fact that Lendl too is a male who is able to set boundaries for Andy - based on respect. And I think this is important, for it successfully helps him to focus on what needs to be done.
Just my view.

[But no matter about the whys and wherefores of the relationship - it seems to be working just fine right now!!!]
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Absolutely brilliant. Feels so good to beat him in a big match, and especially to outplay him like that. Felt appropriate for the year to end with one final showdown for the ranking and there can be no doubts he deserves it now. The final service game to win it was always going to be a bit epic just like at Wimbledon too.
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I wonder how big a difference that df that wasn't called made in giving andy just that extra bit of fire. The very next point he belted back a return and from there on he looked determined to win.
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What a perfect way to end the season for Andy! A thoroughly well-deserved title (no one can say he had an easy route through!) and to clinch the YE #1 ranking with a win over his main rival is just the ideal way to do it.
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I wonder how big a difference that df that wasn't called made in giving andy just that extra bit of fire. The very next point he belted back a return and from there on he looked determined to win.

I think against Rafa in MC and in other matches of the Djokovic/Nadal/Federer calibre he's felt conned this year in some line calls etc. so he decided he's had enough.
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Thanks TD...It was great to be able to see that again, safe in the knowledge that Andy had prevailed.  Very Happy If Djoko had managed to break Andy again in that last game, it would've been unbearable. I don't know how Andy did it, but I doubt he'd have lasted a third set. I heard Djoko celebrated beating an equally exhausted Kei Nikashori as though he'd just one the final, so the thought of him actually winning it was just too awful to contemplate, so thank God we didn't have to! Phew! Rolling Eyes
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Sorry, but that's pretty much nonsense...

Yeah, it is total nonsense.  As you say, Aileen, their father pretty much raised them on his own for a time.  What is this person talking about?  I despair.  Just because their dad stays out of the public eye doesn't mean he's distant.  They are a very close family.  Utter b*ll*cks.  Uh, that has touched a nerve!
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It's interesting.. - In his book (when he was 21) Andy says that although he might swear on the tennis court, he still would never swear in front of his dad. He also mentions how the stuff his father told him and the discipline he gave him when he was younger helped him to fend for himself when he went to Spain.

I think the similarity of realationship with Lendl lies in the fact that Lendl too is a male who is able to set boundaries for Andy - based on respect. And I think this is important, for it successfully helps him to focus on what needs to be done.
Just my view.

[But no matter about the whys and wherefores of the relationship - it seems to be working just fine right now!!!]

This.
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Yeah, it is total nonsense.  As you say, Aileen, their father pretty much raised them on his own for a time.  What is this person talking about?  I despair.  Just because their dad stays out of the public eye doesn't mean he's distant.  They are a very close family.  Utter b*ll*cks.  Uh, that has touched a nerve!

Couldn't agree more.     I can remember Andy, quite early on in his career,  correcting an Interview who said something about how much his mother had done for him and Andy simply said "my parents".
He always gives his father his place and so does Jamie.
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