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Murray in 2 - 10 (62.5%)
Murray in 3 - 3 (18.8%)
Raonic in 2 - 0 (0%)
Raonic in 3 - 1 (6.3%)
There Will Be Tiebreaks - 2 (12.5%)
Total Voters: 16

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WTF 2016 SF: Andy Murray vs Milos Raonic
Aileen
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Quote from: marathonarthur on November 19, 2016, 06:27 pm
Well played Andy. I think that you got rather angry with yourself not to have served it out (twice!) but an Andy of yesteryear could never have put the disappointment aside and still win.
I agree.  His mental strength is really amazing these days.
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TheMadHatter
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His ability to grind out these matches after blowing final set leads is quite unbelievable. I don't know how he does it. How often does he break right at the death, usually having just been broken serving for the match? Unfortunately today he couldn't serve it out the second time either, but still managed to do it in the tie-break despite going MP down having had 3 MPs saved. Ridiculous mental fortitude.

He's become Djokovic-esque in his refusal to lose nowadays. Nishikori, Berdych, Raonic, Isner, etc will all be able to tell you how insanely hard he is to beat.

I suspect Djokovic will win in two fairly straightforward sets tomorrow though. Energy/intensity and stamina are just so key to their matches and unfortunately Djokovic will surely have so much more after Andy's efforts this week (and the last month). I'd have fancied Nishikori's chances of beating him before this week, but rather ironically I think Andy might have exhausted him out on Weds, given Nishi's performance yesterday.

Still, no more than 370 points behind Novak at worst case with half the points to defend - Andy will surely return to #1 at some point next year if he can't retain it tomorrow.
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TheMadHatter
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Can't wait to watch that tie-break back on iplayer.
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Aileen
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Quote from: Matthew2408 on November 19, 2016, 06:30 pm
Wow what an incredible match, I don't know how Andy managed it in the end. He dug deep and basically said that he wasn't losing that match. Fantastic effort.

Unlucky for Milos he played well enough to win he has had a great year and should be proud.
I do feel sorry for him, but he's got more time than Andy has to win more titles.  Also his ranking has gone up to #3, so that should please him.
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deb
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Quote from: Aileen on November 19, 2016, 06:09 pm
Me too deb, especially as I knew how Andy would feel after losing a match like this.

PS - Both Dylan and Muzza bear have collapsed with relief!
  roflmao I know how they feel  hug
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Aileen
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The on-court interview but you'd better watch the video quickly before it gets taken down for breach of copy right.
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Aileen
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Quote from: deb on November 19, 2016, 07:02 pm
  roflmao I know how they feel  hug
Me too, and they were very welcome company. Very Happy
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ST Essex
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Match is on the Iplayer now.
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TheMadHatter
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Quote from: Aileen on November 19, 2016, 07:05 pm
Will try to remember to do so.


Meanwhile I think somebody wanted the on-court interview, but they'd better watch the video quickly before it gets taken down for breach of copy right.



It's up already! Watching it now.

That half volley at *3-1 in the second set tie-break, oh my word.
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Aileen
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Meanwhile Jamie & Bruno are heading for a breadstick loss in the first set. Frown
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TheMadHatter
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The quality of the little snippets I've seen (latter end of second and third set) is actually very high - it's just that most of the rallies end in an unforced error rather than a winner. Some brilliant rallies on huge points in the third set tie-break.

The forehand from Raonic to save the first MP was simply sublime. Amazing defence. Murray played the point perfectly.

Amazing play from Murray to save Raonic's MP, given the circumstance. No fear.
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notnek
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Does it make me a bad Murray fan if I want Novak to win so he can play Andy in the final?

Losing to Novak would be crap but beating him to take YE number 1 could be one of the highlights of his career.
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Aileen
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Quote from: notnek on November 19, 2016, 07:41 pm
Does it make me a bad Murray fan if I want Novak to win so he can play Andy in the final?

Losing to Novak would be crap but beating him to take YE number 1 could be one of the highlights of his career.
I think most of us would prefer a Novak win notnek, and I say that as a fan of Kei as well!
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Sabine
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Quote from: notnek on November 19, 2016, 07:41 pm
Does it make me a bad Murray fan if I want Novak to win so he can play Andy in the final?

Losing to Novak would be crap but beating him to take YE number 1 could be one of the highlights of his career.

I wish the same!
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TheMadHatter
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Quote from: notnek on November 19, 2016, 07:41 pm
Does it make me a bad Murray fan if I want Novak to win so he can play Andy in the final?

Losing to Novak would be crap but beating him to take YE number 1 could be one of the highlights of his career.
If Andy was in good condition then normally I'd say yes. Given his exertions this week and Novak's relative cakewalk, I fear bakery products. Would be a rather anti-climatic way to end the year. I'll take a huge upset tonight I think. But Djokovic must have the upper hand, given the seven levels of hell his two opponents have given each other in the groups. Some credit is due for handling Raonic in two sets in his one tough encounter.
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