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Re: Scottish politics
« on: February 21, 2021, 04:07 pm »
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Quote from: Littlebuddha on February 21, 2021, 01:48 pm
I would think it more appropriate to have a good look at Boris and his cronies and look at the balls-up they have made in trying to control this virus. He just can't stick to one option it changes frequently obviously his fellow tories are unhappy that he is not sending people back to work.
Neverhurraymurray lives in Scotland, so it would actually seem to be more appropriate to have a good look at the Scottish Government and their cronies and look at the balls-up they have made in trying to control this virus, wouldn't it?
I'm pretty shocked at the sort of raging partisanship that allows you to whine about Johnsons pandemic, yet clap Sturgeons pandemic.
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The fact is that now all the facts about the purchase of PPE are coming out, contracts were given to his cronies without tenders and so on. It stinks that this has been allowed by this tory government why has there not been some enquiries about this. It is shocking that this has been allowed, there should be an enquiry made about this wasting of public money but I suppose this will be swept under the table.
In the middle of a raging pandemic, would you a) prefer that the government machine make use of existing contacts (which will, given a Tory government, be largely Tory leaning) to source scare items, or instead run a six week tender process? So far almost all of the noise from partisan hacks like that fox murdering kimono wearing tosspot Jolyon Maugham are focused on process, not on outcomes - which is really quite telling.
Oh, and it's inquiry. One has already been promised.
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Also, the facts are now coming out about a unit that has been formed by Boris to spread false information about the SNP and its policies in Scotland apparently the head of this unit resigned after 2 weeks. He was a Scot so now there are no Scots in this unit now says it all doesn't it.
All but one statement in that paragraph is wrong.
This is your brain on nationalism, kids. More destructive to the 'ol grey matter than CJD.
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Re: Scottish politics
« on: February 21, 2021, 04:53 pm »
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^ And on the subject of contracts - see post on British Politics thread. Basically Hancock seems to think that he's above the law and therefore can do what he likes.
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Re: Scottish politics
« on: February 22, 2021, 02:49 pm »
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I’m not interested in shaming anyone. Nicola is a clever woman, speaks without notes etc. I would be perfectly happy with her as a leader but her party has lost its way . The Scotsman is hardly a right wing rag but every day reports on the twitter related feuds between SNP politicians who increasingly use the Scottish court as a playground toy to sort their battles. At least Salmond crowdfunded his defence. Incidentally eye surgeons are in the paper today’s describing eye care plans as a regressive step back into the dark ages. Presumably they might know a bit about the topic. More than me anyway.
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Re: Scottish politics
« on: February 22, 2021, 03:54 pm »
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I’m not interested in shaming anyone. Nicola is a clever woman, speaks without notes etc. I would be perfectly happy with her as a leader but her party has lost its way . The Scotsman is hardly a right wing rag but every day reports on the twitter related feuds between SNP politicians who increasingly use the Scottish court as a playground toy to sort their battles. At least Salmond crowdfunded his defence. Incidentally eye surgeons are in the paper today’s describing eye care plans as a regressive step back into the dark ages. Presumably they might know a bit about the topic. More than me anyway.
The only comment I'm going to make here is that I thought it was utterly disgraceful that Salmond used crowdfunding to meet his legal costs in an attempt to clear his name because he has plenty money of his own, receiving as he does five pensions along with considerable sums of money for his Kremlin-backed RT show, yet it seems that people were gullible enough to help him raise £100,000 - which was in fact double the amount that he sought. I'm not a fan of crowdfunding at the best of times although fortunately mostly it's used for altruistic reasons not selfish personal ones, which was the case with Salmond.
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Re: Scottish politics
« on: February 23, 2021, 12:31 pm »
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Wow, this Salmond stuff is turning into a bid deal. Exposed the utter corruption at the heart of the Scottish Government, and the final rejection of the idea that the "unicameral with committees" legislative model was workable.
Astonishing corruption befitting a banana republic.
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Re: Scottish politics
« on: February 23, 2021, 01:09 pm »
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Wow, this Salmond stuff is turning into a bid deal. Exposed the utter corruption at the heart of the Scottish Government, and the final rejection of the idea that the "unicameral with committees" legislative model was workable.
Astonishing corruption befitting a banana republic.
I do know what's going on with Salmond, paranoid buffoon that he is, but would you like to clarify that latest jibe?
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Re: Scottish politics
« on: February 23, 2021, 02:59 pm »
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Which bit? The corruption?
Well. Salmond's testimony was accidentally published and then withdrawn, before being published again with redactions. One of these solely concerned the accusation that Sturgeon had broken the ministerial code, and as far as I can see there is absolutely no plausible reason for it to be redacted.
Pretty amazing behaviour.
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Re: Scottish politics
« on: February 23, 2021, 03:28 pm »
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^ Yes I can understand that now, but why do you see this as being "the final rejection of the idea that the "unicameral with committees" legislative model was workable"?
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Re: Scottish politics
« on: February 24, 2021, 07:48 pm »
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I suspect this Tory MSP isn't alone, as are most members of the public, if they're even interested that is -
"Alex Salmond inquiry: Committee member ‘heartily sick of the whole affair’"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/alex-salmond-inquiry-snp-sturgeon-evidence-b1806561.html
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Re: Scottish politics
« on: February 24, 2021, 08:31 pm »
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^ Yes I can understand that now, but why do you see this as being "the final rejection of the idea that the "unicameral with committees" legislative model was workable"?
The original plan was that the various committees in the Scottish Parliament would in effect serve the same function as a second chamber.
As the Salmond case - a long line of similar previous examples - have demonstrated is that this does not work. The committees are toothless and politicised and the executive is allowed to run rampant. The SNP forcing SMP's to sign up to an agreement banning them from criticising the party hasn't exactly helped either.
It's a huge mess, but of course the usual suspects are engaging in constitutional bickering instead. Feckless cretins.
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Re: Scottish politics
« on: February 24, 2021, 09:10 pm »
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The original plan was that the various committees in the Scottish Parliament would in effect serve the same function as a second chamber.
Thanks because I wasn't aware of that at the time.
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As the Salmond case - a long line of similar previous examples - have demonstrated is that this does not work. The committees are toothless and politicised and the executive is allowed to run rampant. The SNP forcing SMP's to sign up to an agreement banning them from criticising the party hasn't exactly helped either.
I don't know what the previous examples are, but I do agree about the SNP's agreement policy and always have done. Party members should have the right to criticise, within reason of course, without being punished for doing so.
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t's a huge mess, but of course the usual suspects are engaging in constitutional bickering instead. Feckless cretins.
I hope the 'feckless cretins' includes Salmond because it's time he got his act together, stopped his paranoid claims about a conspiracy, and turned up at the inquiry, which hopefully he will do on Friday unless he can find yet another excuse for not doing so, because at this rate the inquiry could go on indefinitely.
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Re: Scottish politics
« on: February 24, 2021, 10:02 pm »
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Well, we all know that boogers is a "feckless cretin" as far as the SNP is concerned. Maybe that should apply to the Tory Party in Westminister as well where it is truly deserved.
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Re: Scottish politics
« on: February 25, 2021, 08:26 am »
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LB, here is a piece by pro SNP academic, James Mitchell
https://sceptical.scot/2021/02/snp-tensions-causes-and-effects/
Anything you disagree with in the article?
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Re: Scottish politics
« on: February 25, 2021, 12:36 pm »
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The chilling aspect of the Salmond case is the role of the Crown Office who are supposed to serve the public interest but increasingly dance to the tune of the Scottish executive. That is where democracy ends and corrupt states begin.
Nicola should get her husband to step down. He should have resigned on the spot after publication of his email which urged for pressure to be put on the Crown office to prosecute Salmond.
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Re: Scottish politics
« on: February 25, 2021, 01:48 pm »
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Quote from: althusser on February 25, 2021, 08:26 am
LB, here is a piece by pro SNP academic, James Mitchell
https://sceptical.scot/2021/02/snp-tensions-causes-and-effects/
Anything you disagree with in the article?
I think she must have overlooked reading the article, she might read it later in the day though.
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