For instance boogers there is no way he is ever going to change his opinions so why even try.
This is certainly true until the fundamentals change. I do think my position is more consistent and intellectually honest that your or iluvandy's positions though.
Because I acknowledge that there is a philosophically valid case for independence based on sovereignty and self determination. I also I think that the damage caused by independence isn't worth it. In both cases I am in favour of an open and honest debate, with a consensus view on what a post-Independence Scotland should look like before
separation is achieved.
You both seem to be either entirely ignorant of the consequences, or willing to lie to people to get your preferred outcome. Very Brexity.