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U.S. Presidential Election 2016

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Classic from the Sunday Herald 

http://entertainment.ie/tv/news/Pic-This-TV-highlight-about-Trumps-inauguration-is-going-viral-for-a-very-good-reason/389416.htm

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I know people are passionate about both Hillary and Trump.

Respond how you like to my posts, I won't be offended and it won't effect my bank account so all is good.  thumb up
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Bizarrely the orange sex pest seems to have done an interview with Michael Gove for the Times.

So, the orange sex pest's interview with the rubber-faced man has been published. The sort of drivel you'd expect, except for one rather eye opening passage in which it's revealed that he doesn't like the EU:

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His pessimism about the EU is rooted in his view of it as anti-jobs and anti-growth. And it springs, as so much of his world view does, from his experience as a businessman rather than any ideological preconception.

“I own a big property in Ireland, magnificent property called Doonbeg. What happened is I went for an approval to do this massive, beautiful expansion — that was when I was a developer, now I couldn’t care less about it . . . but I learnt a lot because . . . they were using environmental tricks to stop a project from being built. I found it to be a very unpleasant experience. To get the approvals from the EU would have taken years. I don’t think that’s good for a country like Ireland. So you know what I did? I said forget it, I’m not gonna build it.”

So, the tiny handed mental lightweight hates the EU... because of environmental protection laws that stopped him from building a gaudy monument to tat.
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So, the tiny handed mental lightweight hates the EU... because of environmental protection laws that stopped him from building a gaudy monument to tat.
That's a real problem, how is he a mental lightweight for that? The EU has some totally irrational rules for environmental, etc protection and it's anti-growth for real. Many businesses moved/are moving east to avoid their rules which were made by people who apparently haven't worked in certain fields. It was and still is a problem so Trump actually said something smart there. Despite that as i said i'm still pro-EU but useless and anti-growth regulations are useless and anti-growth regulations.
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Care to name some irrational EU environmental protection rules?
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Care to name some irrational EU environmental protection rules?
well, i'll give you a fine example of the level of irrationality and hypocrisy from agriculture the EU represents and if you asked people from different fields like builders, etc they could come up with similar examples.

So there are many here who are into producing duck, goose products, like goose liver, goose feather, etc., the buyers are mostly germans and french, here at home goose liver is not even popular lol!

So as you know the nice and soft version of goose liver which the French like so much is made by stuffing food into the goose cause that will make its liver big and fatty and soft... So after we joined the EU the authorities started harassing the peasants about this even though that's what they had been doing all their lives. Then ofc there's the goose feather which is used to make pillows etc, they started harassing people about that too, like how they tore the feather from the goose/duck...

Orbán, as bad as he is,  made things better for the rural areas, even though the rules haven't improved significantly at least he took away lots of power from the representatives of the EU here who were making life hell for people in agriculture.
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So no, you can't. Jolly good.
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well, i'll give you a fine example of the level of irrationality and hypocrisy from agriculture the EU represents and if you asked people from different fields like builders, etc they could come up with similar examples.

So there are many here who are into producing duck, goose products, like goose liver, goose feather, etc., the buyers are mostly germans and french, here at home goose liver is not even popular lol!

So as you know the nice and soft version of goose liver which the French like so much is made by stuffing food into the goose cause that will make its liver big and fatty and soft... So after we joined the EU the authorities started harassing the peasants about this even though that's what they had been doing all their lives. Then ofc there's the goose feather which is used to make pillows etc, they started harassing people about that too, like how they tore the feather from the goose/duck...

Orbán, as bad as he is,  made things better for the rural areas, even though the rules haven't improved significantly at least he took away lots of power from the representatives of the EU here who were making life hell for people in agriculture.

So humane treatment of animals - that's irrational?
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Chinese media have been describing the orange sex pest as a 'risible rookie'

Quite amazing to have such widespread international contempt for a US President before they have even taken office. And that is saying something after G.W.
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So no, you can't. Jolly good.
I gave you an example from a field that i'm familiar with completely, not good enough? Why do you think entrepreneurs from every field are so anti-EU, i could google lots of stuff from construction or anywhere. The problem with the EU leadership is that they are a bunch of incompetent bureaucrats who made failed rules and decisions and they're in complete denial just like you, then they're crying member states are considering seriously leaving the EU, also that they're making mini unions withing the EU and are doing business with Russia..

The same applies to the Nuke plant deal with Russia, we've already talked about it, they tried to kill the deal using their fail environmental rules as an excuse but since Orbán went on to do it anyway no matter what the EU eventually decided it wasn't against the rules so much after all.

So humane treatment of animals - that's irrational?
Well, unless someone's a vegetarian he treats animals very badly, also it's a very philosophical subject, like what's better for an animal, if they kill it quickly or if they stuff him with food/take its feathers.... Like i surely would prefer if they stuffed me full of burgers/ waxed all my body hair off to getting my head chopped off.
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I gave you an example from a field that i'm familiar with completely, not good enough?

No. The examples you cited are culturally subjective but not irrational.

There probably are EU environmental regulations which are anti-growth, but you haven't been able to cite them. Ultimately there needs to be a balance between what's best economically and best environmentally, else we end up living in polluted shit holes like Upper Silesea or Beijing.
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No. The examples you cited are culturally subjective but not irrational.

There probably are EU environmental regulations which are anti-growth, but you haven't been able to cite them. Ultimately there needs to be a balance between what's best economically and best environmentally, else we end up living in polluted **** holes like Upper Silesea or Beijing.
Well, people here decided they are irrational and took measures against them. Also Orbán is at least listening and curbed the EU's power here. That's why people are not rioting here to leave the EU and in the UK they didn't listen and that's why you're in the whole brexit mess.

I'm not unable to i just won't bother to google, i could also ask some entrepreneur friends about specific environmental regulations that were harmful to them i just won't bother to waste my precious time with it when tons of the EU's anti-growth BS is common knowledge.

The same way Trump gave that Irish example, they messed, he didn't build it.. i have lots of experience with the EU messings, some people would call that anecdotal fallacy, fine to me, np , people are taking measures and in the long run the messing bureaucrats will find themselves in big trouble, they are kinda in it already, just look at the Brexit, the migrant crisis+terrorist attacks, people are listening to them less and less, also they'll become a joke the world will laugh at. You can deny that til kingdom come but that's how it is.
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Well, people here decided they are irrational and took measures against them.


Cultural subjectivity.

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I'm not unable to i just won't bother to google, i could also ask some entrepreneur friends about specific environmental regulations that were harmful to them i just won't bother to waste my precious time with it when tons of the EU's anti-growth BS is common knowledge.

The same way Trump gave that Irish example, they messed, he didn't build it.. i have lots of experience with the EU messings, some people would call that anecdotal fallacy, fine to me, np , people are taking measures and in the long run the messing bureaucrats will find themselves in big trouble, they are kinda in it already, just look at the Brexit, the migrant crisis+terrorist attacks, people are listening to them less and less, also they'll become a joke the world will laugh at. You can deny that til kingdom come but that's how it is.

Ah, PPP knows. Now there's an appeal to authority that's hard to look away from. lol

Firstly, support for the EU in EU countries has risen since the Brexit vote. Secondly, Trump appears to be lying about Doonbeg. It was the local council not the EU that raised concerns.
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Phil spots PPP posting outside of his underground thread...



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Actual lol.

Well, if he ventures out of his safe space I figure he's fair game. Shrug
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