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janetx
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Re: Murray, you're a star
« on: July 08, 2012, 09:53 pm »
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^ seconded and thirded and so on ad infinitum!
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Re: Murray, you're a star
« on: July 08, 2012, 09:55 pm »
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well how sad that anyone should define themselves as an andy hater - says it all really and now i think we should ignore the little scumbag
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Naomi_Parker
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Re: Murray, you're a star
« on: July 08, 2012, 10:38 pm »
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Quote from: murray hater on July 08, 2012, 09:01 pm
glad to see him lose today. Glad to see the Fed win, but more glad to see Andy crying
'When hate walks in... love walks out!'
You have my condolences.
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Re: Murray, you're a star
« on: July 08, 2012, 11:51 pm »
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You played an awesome tourament, continued success and you'll be winning majors soon.
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Re: Murray, you're a star
« on: July 09, 2012, 12:40 am »
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Great game,. Great performance from Andy Murray. Won friends all around the world.
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Re: Murray, you're a star
« on: July 09, 2012, 03:01 pm »
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Hi guys and thanks for the welcome I received.
I'm posting the following...which I replied to on MSN...though I don't often post on there, couldn't ignore what some of the posters were saying replying to an article with the heading...
Andy Murray: a hero, if not a champion
First the above article is fairer than some so thank you. Andy didn't lose anything at all...you can't lose something you never had in the first place!
He gained far more than anyone on here realises...but I'm sure he does. He reached the final...gain...he believed for awhile he was as good as Federer...which he is...gain...though some people are forgetting the stats between these two...before the final...8-7 to Murray.
I don't know if the occasion got to him (he maybe thought all the support would go to Federer, it didn't) but I think the support he received got to him and he crumbled because he was overwhelmed. When you persistently get negative feedback by the media etc you begin to expect it and deal with it accordingly...what he wasn't expecting...I'm pretty sure... was the support of so many, win or lose. Under those circumstances I would have crumbled too.
Andy is resilient when it comes to negativity...he's learnt to overcome that.
He is obviously a sensitive guy who has tried his best to hide it...probably so he wouldn't be taken advantage of. Here he has gained again...showing your vulnerabilities is harder than any tennis match he could be in. Because now his wall has come down he can deal with that now. All his demons are gone and he is going to come back so so strong the world of tennis won't know what's hit them.
Andy Murray - Braveheart
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Re: Murray, you're a star
« on: July 09, 2012, 03:04 pm »
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Quote from: Naomi_Parker on July 09, 2012, 03:01 pm
Hi guys and thanks for the welcome I received.
I'm posting the following...which I replied to on MSN...though I don't often post on there, couldn't ignore what some of the posters were saying replying to an article with the heading...
Andy Murray: a hero, if not a champion
First the above article is fairer than some so thank you. Andy didn't lose anything at all...you can't lose something you never had in the first place!
He gained far more than anyone on here realises...but I'm sure he does. He reached the final...gain...he believed for awhile he was as good as Federer...which he is...gain...though some people are forgetting the stats between these two...before the final...8-7 to Murray.
I don't know if the occasion got to him (he maybe thought all the support would go to Federer, it didn't) but I think the support he received got to him and he crumbled because he was overwhelmed. When you persistently get negative feedback by the media etc you begin to expect it and deal with it accordingly...what he wasn't expecting...I'm pretty sure... was the support of so many, win or lose. Under those circumstances I would have crumbled too.
Andy is resilient when it comes to negativity...he's learnt to overcome that.
He is obviously a sensitive guy who has tried his best to hide it...probably so he wouldn't be taken advantage of. Here he has gained again...showing your vulnerabilities is harder than any tennis match he could be in. Because now his wall has come down he can deal with that now. All his demons are gone and he is going to come back so so strong the world of tennis won't know what's hit them.
Andy Murray - Braveheart
well said ,
welcome.
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Naomi_Parker
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Re: Murray, you're a star
« on: July 09, 2012, 03:12 pm »
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Hi Deb, thanks for the welcome
. I knew I shouldn't have read the posts, saw the article after signing out of email...I try not to respond to MSN but erm it kind of got the better of me eek!
Anyway,
waving backatcha Deb can't find the little man lol ooo I better go and have my lunch...a very late one.
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Re: Murray, you're a star
« on: July 09, 2012, 09:06 pm »
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Andy is the best and I love this article as it sums up his character to a T. I cannot understand anyone not seeing and appreciating this man's integrity Federer the smirker , brilliant tennis player for sure, is a psychological mind player but I think Murray through the help of Llendl is above his games now. Its on to the Olympics and hopefully, sweet revenge.
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Re: Murray, you're a star
« on: July 10, 2012, 07:56 am »
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This article should be splashed across all the newspapers. It is brilliant.
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Re: Murray, you're a star
« on: July 10, 2012, 01:23 pm »
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Hi All, just popped in to say if it appears there is anyone's posts I've not acknowledged, I'm still finding my way around here. I have actually read all the posts and thanks to anyone who replied to mine.
Take care all...laters
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Re: Murray, you're a star
« on: July 12, 2012, 05:20 pm »
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The problem with Andy, I always think, is that he is from a country that really only embraces tennis for two weeks, or rather three, a year, i.e. for Queen's and Wimbledon, so people don't see what he does and how hard he works all the time. I think in terms of his tennis he is very often criticised by people who only watch it during Queen's and Wimbledon, who don't really understand the sport and can't see how Andy's game is developing right in front of our eyes. For example, this year Andy got to his first Wimbledon final. Now sure, he didn't win, but he fought so hard, didn't back down and didn't stand and give the match away. He took his first set in a major final over a player who up to that moment had won 16 majors, six at Wimbledon. Taking that set, the way Andy stood up to Federer, is such a massive step in the right direction for him, but all certain people can see is that he lost 3 sets to 1.
I think people are lazy as well, blindly accepting of some of the stuff the media has perpetuated about him, i.e. that he is miserable, boring, not to mention that terrible 'racist' slur that has somehow stuck and taken on a life of its own. I've lost count of the number of times I've told people, including my own brother, that it was a joke, but they just won't have it. I hope Andy has learned not to care.
I really do think Andy does incredibly well to keep his head, especially at this time of the year, when he effectively becomes the whipping boy for British tennis. The expectation Andy has to carry is phenomenal. The way that John McEnroe even acknowledges the level of pressure Andy is subjected to says it all.
I do feel though that something has changed now. I must admit that at the end of the match on Sunday I was momentarily a bit cross with Sue Barker for making Andy aware that he hadn't always been embraced, or words to that effect, by tennis fans, I felt it was the wrong time to say something like that to him, but I'm sure he is well aware of what people think. But I do think in playing as he did on Sunday, in fighting every step of the way with Federer, and then in showing that crowd his feelings so openly, people saw the real Andy Murray, rather than the one the media perpetuates. I really do think he will have gained a lot of support as a result.
I must say that personally I would rather have Andy's honesty, his obvious emotions, providing of course they don't boil over to too much frustration when he is playing, which can be a negative thing for him, and also Andy's dry wit, than all Federer's showy media patter. For my money it makes Andy seem more real.
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Re: Murray, you're a star
« on: July 14, 2012, 11:44 am »
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Hi teejay...I completely agree with everything you have said here.
Thursday night, Michael Portillo made a comment on the show 'This Week'...a tongue-in-cheek...if not satirical take on the news...though mainly political...quote:
'I'm very pleased that there is still quite a lot of admiration left for Federer... and Federer, I think, is actually the model that should be followed by Prime Ministers and other politicians. You know someone who is...very approachable, very charismatic, who keeps those emotions under control and delivers a consistent performance.'
Andrew comments: 'So Swiss emotions rather than Scottish emotions?'
Michael: 'Well I didn't know Scottish emotions were of that order until I saw Andy Murray...I've been led to believe the Scottish were made of sterner stuff...referring to Andy crying...end of quote.
I need to get this 'bee out of me bonnet' so...
Such loyalty to a Brit is...well overwhelming! Pretty much see this all the time though...become part of our culture. Beat down the Brits...hooray for anyone else! Typical politician!
No offence Roger but what Michael described sounded like a robot!
Robots in tennis...not quite my thing.
Oh and as to the 'sterner' stuff...the man doesn't really know what he's talking about because I've seen his charismatic...model at keeping his emotions under control...not only cry but brag about being able to do so too!
Wonder what John Mac would make of the comments...
So people...if you want to get on this life you need to be a robot....Andy has no chance whichever way he does it.
Oh and one final thing...another guest on the show referred to Andy's display as 'The real Andy Murray'. This makes me laugh into infinity when folk say 'ah.. now we are seeing the real person' usually only said when showing a strong emotion...does that mean that the rest of our personality isn't real...that if we are a basically a 'placid' person... when we are not 'that' is the real us and the rest of our personality doesn't exist? If so we are in trouble people! lol
Anyway, that bee's stopped a buzzing now.
And a message to all Federer fans...I'm sure Roger is in fact a really nice person but...'It's easy to like someone who is likeable...the hard thing is liking someone who isn't...all of the time'! Which pretty much includes everyone!
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Re: Murray, you're a star
« on: July 14, 2012, 12:12 pm »
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Let's try a little satire of our own..
Me: Hi Andy
Andy: Hi Naomi
Me: Your smiling and joking, you know they won't like that.
Andy: Why not?
Me: Well they'll say you're not taking the game seriously.
Andy drops bottom lip and scowls
Me: They won't like that either.
Andy: Why not?
Me: They'll say you're a drama queen.
Andy Laughs profusely...
Me: They won't like you doing that either.
Andy: Why not?
Me: They'll say you're taking the Mickey
(Sorry Mickey)
Andy gets angry...
Me: They definitely won't like that!
Andy: Why not!
Me: They'll accuse you of spitting your dummy out!
Andy relaxes and shrugs his shoulders...
Andy: What can I do then?
Me: Listen my little cherub *gives him a motherly hug* you can be your fantastic self to those who like and love you (and there is many who do) and to the others...well they should just get a life and check out there own stuff.
Andy: What do you mean...own stuff?
Me: They're projecting hun...they need our sympathy.
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Re: Murray, you're a star
« on: July 14, 2012, 12:30 pm »
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^^ lol good one
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