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Re: Murray leads call for change
« on: October 02, 2011, 12:41 pm »
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Quote from: MT on October 02, 2011, 09:46 am
I think Bodo is making a valid point and if Andy has a PR team they should be making absolutely sure he doesn't get involved in this debate any further. Whether he is right or wrong in his views the vast majority of UK will see it as whingeing from a multi millionaire at a tough time for them.
People keep complaining that the press are targeting Andy on this issue but from what I've seen, Andy has been the most vocal about it recently. If I was his PR team, I'd be telling him to let the others take the lead but support them where necessary. Don't be a spokesman for the rich wanting better working conditions when most ordinary people are struggling to keep their family fed.
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Re: Murray leads call for change
« on: October 17, 2011, 12:53 pm »
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Lets face it I am sure Federer and Nadal are supposed to be the players reps on the ATP. Let Mr Smug and Nadal do the work they were elected to do, namely to represent the players. Nadal was the one who did most of the complaining at the US Open. Federer will never rock the boat (that would be below his perceived image) until its time to elect new spokesmen to the ATP Andy should not get involved. However I do feel the grievances raised at the US Open were genuine and the player were right to complain about it.
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Re: Murray leads call for change
« on: October 17, 2011, 12:57 pm »
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I agree with you both!
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Re: Murray leads call for change
« on: October 17, 2011, 07:45 pm »
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Lets face it I am sure Federer and Nadal are supposed to be the players reps on the ATP. Let Mr Smug and Nadal do the work they were elected to do, namely to represent the players. Nadal was the one who did most of the complaining at the US Open. Federer will never rock the boat (that would be below his perceived image) until its time to elect new spokesmen to the ATP Andy should not get involved. However I do feel the grievances raised at the US Open were genuine and the player were right to complain about it.
Mark and Littlebuddha are right.
Andy should choose his words carefully on such subjects. I like to stand up for what I believe, but in Andys case he would do well to try to "win some friends in the media" this MAY take some of the negative pressure off him, if he's more respected by the media as a sportman. They are too focused on his effing and jeffing and body language to appreciate his wonderful talent, at present.
Why should Smugfed be vocal, he's not going to be playing for much longer, is he ??? Planning retirement I should think!
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Re: Murray leads call for change
« on: October 17, 2011, 08:34 pm »
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Andy Roddick spoke yesterday and mainly said that there are too many different organisations ,they will not ever got in the same page.
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Re: Murray leads call for change
« on: October 17, 2011, 08:59 pm »
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I am French and very admiring Andy continues to live in England and to pay taxes higher than 50% of samples. Our French tennis players went in tax havens ...... I think Andy has the right to speak on certain working conditions in particular programming tournaments and their obligation to participate.Is he right or wrong? that is not the problem: the freedom of speech even for athletes high level has to exist. After, Andy has to take the consequences of its actions. I believe him strong enough and pugnacious to do it! As for the English media I find little grateful for everything he brings to this country. Yellow card for them
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Re: Murray leads call for change
« on: October 18, 2011, 02:06 pm »
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You are dead right about the English Media, they have little love for Andy know why because he's not English Also he is not the right Class he does not fit into their picture of a tennis champion. People will say this is not true but it is. How can they be so nasty to someone who represents this country UK. Scots have no problems with him as far as we are concerned he is a great player. Scots people find it hard to understand what the problem is with their attitude it is a problem and it needs to be solved but only the English can solve it.
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Re: Murray leads call for change
« on: October 18, 2011, 02:29 pm »
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Let's not forget that Andy has loads of English fans!
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Re: Murray leads call for change
« on: October 18, 2011, 02:51 pm »
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I know Caz but it is true, look at some of the postings on facebook and other news articles. Its there and can't be denied. They really do not like Andy, I am sorry but its true and there is no getting away from it.
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Re: Murray leads call for change
« on: October 18, 2011, 03:29 pm »
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Let's not forget that Andy has loads of English fans!
And I am one of them.
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Re: Murray leads call for change
« on: October 18, 2011, 04:06 pm »
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You are dead right about the English Media, they have little love for Andy know why because he's not English Also he is not the right Class he does not fit into their picture of a tennis champion. People will say this is not true but it is. How can they be so nasty to someone who represents this country UK. Scots have no problems with him as far as we are concerned he is a great player. Scots people find it hard to understand what the problem is with their attitude it is a problem and it needs to be solved but only the English can solve it.
Can you ever make a post without mentioning the English and our hatred of the Scots?
England - keeping Scotland in the gutter since the Big Bang.
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Re: Murray leads call for change
« on: October 18, 2011, 04:36 pm »
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I know Caz but it is true, look at some of the postings on facebook and other news articles. Its there and can't be denied. They really do not like Andy, I am sorry but its true and there is no getting away from it.
The thing is LB, that it's not a good thing to keep harping on about the English all the time when there is clearly so much support from the English fans, many of whom happen to be our friends on MW! You can't tar everyone with the same brush, and that includes journalists too!
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Re: Murray leads call for change
« on: October 18, 2011, 05:08 pm »
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England - keeping Scotland in the gutter since the Big Bang.
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Re: Murray leads call for change
« on: October 18, 2011, 05:12 pm »
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He's got Welsh fans too
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Re: Murray leads call for change
« on: October 18, 2011, 05:38 pm »
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Yes Joe I can but why are you so sensitive about it. Like it or not its true and I do not mention the English in every post I make. You are the one who wants to make a big issue of it. Do you think you are St George saving the English from us barbaric Scots come of it you should be able to take criticism. I have to on this forum for expressing my views.
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