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1  General Community / Chit Chat / Re: The future of British politics on: October 24, 2022, 02:03 pm
I do think Sunak is the much better choice though. He's an untrustworthy slimy completely self-serving rich posh twat but he is much better for stability and to calm the markets which is exactly what's needed right now, desperately almost. The country's economy is in potential peril, need to put everything else above that unfortunately, including morality.

But I'll happily take my lost bet in this instance haha

I did not properly consider her potential affiliation with Liz Truss correctly (being a woman as part of that unfortunately). As if I forgot to properly incorporate Tory chauvinism into my calculations, live and learn but guess that was a stupid one. haha
2  General Community / Chit Chat / Re: The future of British politics on: October 24, 2022, 01:59 pm
Apparently she got 90 backers. Close but no cigar?

I think she could have still very easily won with the Tory Member vote too.
3  General Community / Chit Chat / Re: The future of British politics on: October 24, 2022, 01:21 am
It feels a bit like because Penny Mordaunt is a woman she's too much a reflection of Liz ...

Seems rather bad but wouldn't be surprised if that's how the party are seeing it. I guess it didn't help at all either that she chose to back Liz and be in the cabinet.

It feels literally like a "not another women that doesn't know what she's doing" vibe that's been given off.

I'm a lot less confident with my bet now though lol.
4  General Community / Chit Chat / Re: The future of British politics on: October 23, 2022, 01:12 pm
Looks like a load of MPs are waiting to see who's actually running. If Boris can get backing and gets to the h2h he's surely a shoe-in. If Boris can't get backing then a number of them will surely go to Maurdaunt's camp or someone else even will run?

Someone other than Rishi is surely going to get over 100 in backing because there will be many wanting someone other than Rishi to take the job - they're not just oging to let him run unchallenged. Maurdaunt got plenty of votes last time even. And what has really changed in 2 months to make her any less viable to Party members? Or any less someone the membership will back over Rishi?

Ok Rishi will look better now after directly calling out Liz over her economic plans and being the face of opposition against her. But is that enough to sway that many MPs and Tory members?

Rishi may well be some sort of favourite but I can't see why at the odds he's currently at. Once he's actually challenged and another member poll comes through I'm expecting it to change.
5  General Community / Chit Chat / Re: The future of British politics on: October 23, 2022, 10:31 am
I don't actually understand why Rishi is such a huge favourite in the betting odds?

Does he actually have yet any winning h2h in a vote with the Tory membership??

In any case I've put a sizeable bet against him because the odds seem crazy to me.
6  General Community / Chit Chat / Re: The future of British politics on: October 22, 2022, 09:24 pm
Country needs a nice old recession unfortunately. But no party gonna advocate for it.

High tax, low spending.

No other way out. Take the hit and rebuild.

The markets need confidence again, this is the only way to gain it. But a stable leadership would also be fking handy. Why a change to Labour would likely be good irrespective of their economic policies. Starmer with a high majority would be stable and boring. Labour would probably spend way too much and may hurt some sectors of investment but at least the markets would know what's happening much better which is a priority right now. Of course there's not going to be an election any time soon so might not be as bad and useful at the point it actually happens.
7  General Community / Chit Chat / Re: The future of British politics on: October 21, 2022, 12:28 pm
There is the other side of the coin though.

Rather than restoring Party unity a lot of MPs will probably want to try and restore Party morality instead. Installing a previous PM ousted due to illegal activities doesn't exactly give off that message.

The question is: Can Rishi now defeat Penny from the Block in a membership h2h? If so there may well be more tactical voting to keep Boris out and some Rishi voters tactically giving their vote to Mordaunt instead. Tactical voting will likely be more permissable and socially acceptable within PMs this time given what Boris has done. Boris supporters can hardly call foul play and bad ethics given Boris's own dubious morality as PM.

Rishi will still obviously be the main want for a majority of the Tory MPs. The main question may become how to get around the membership vote to get him in somehow.
8  General Community / Chit Chat / Re: The future of British politics on: October 21, 2022, 11:26 am
Yeah Johnson again. Guess everyone can just gloss over the fact that the actual Party was about to get rid of him ‍ Shrug

Will the same people that were ready to get rid of him still want rid of him and oust him straight away? Not likely in anywhere near the same numbers. So... he's managed to get around the party ousting and everything he did by just leaving and coming back 2 months later. Even though nothing has changed with him personally at all. Quite an unbelievable feat really.

If anything he now looks better. Not because he has done anything or changed in any way, but just because Liz Truss was so bad he now looks better in comparison to her by being his regular self. Being only badly viewed by the public for things you've done is always good in comparison to being viewed terribly by them.

Any new Tory leader can look great in comparison to Liz so it's less relevant who's chosen from a moral standpoint at this point. It's not exactly like Rishi is clean in the public's eyes either, so they may as well choose who is the more interesting of the 2 and most likely to win a personality pop contest against Starmer... which is much easier for Boris to do than Sunak.

He's done the honrable thing and resigned and now he's back everyone can forgive and forget and move on. Boris should be seen as a hero, a leader, a comeback king!! <-- My guess at the line Tory MPs will be spouting lol.

^ Yes it would be stupid, but if they stay for another 2 years everyone except the wealthy will be on the streets, homeless and starving.
But what politicians want and is good for them >>> what the public want and is good for them

Not just Tory's either. Most politicians are self-serving at the end of the day, like most people are.
9  General Community / Chit Chat / Re: The future of British politics on: October 20, 2022, 08:48 pm
Why would they call a GE when they would get annihilated? Not gonna happen when that would be stupid for them to do.
10  General Community / Tennis Talk / Re: Roger Federer on: September 15, 2022, 03:56 pm
3rd best player. Always felt so for quite some time, long before it became obvious. Spoilt by his ignorant fans and over favouritory media coverage. So glad he hasn't gone out on top. He's been a worthy adversary though, simply incredible so many times.

Tennis will plummet, already has. Might take half a century of more to get it back to what has been the glory days. Probably over for me for good I imagine.
11  General Community / Chit Chat / Re: The future of British politics on: September 07, 2022, 01:07 am
Seems that every PM is somehow taking over at an even harder point than the last. Pretty much any PM is screwed with this inflationary period followed by the yet 'nother impending recession.

Times are hard for too many. The people will rebel against the current establishment even if the alternatives are not going to help improve things. When people are not happy they call for change, regardless of what that change actual is. I doubt it really matters what she does or does not do.
12  General Community / Chit Chat / Re: The future of British politics on: July 20, 2022, 04:09 pm
Guess Liz Truss is the next PM then. What a terrible choice  Smile
13  General Community / Chit Chat / Re: The future of British politics on: July 14, 2022, 02:49 pm
Looks to be a bit of an effort to get rid of Mordaunt now. She's not quite what the Tory's are typically looking look for and used to. Might be a bit of a Blair moment for them.
14  General Community / Tennis Talk / Re: ATP/WTA Tour - The Other Players on: July 10, 2022, 05:50 pm
Federer officially in 3rd place on GS titles. Who would have thought he would retire as 3rd all those years ago.
15  General Community / Chit Chat / Re: The future of British politics on: July 10, 2022, 12:57 pm
Yes if she was running in an election. But a majority of Tory members still probably care more about lower taxes than much else and they're the ones she will have to ultimately win over.
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