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General Community / Sports Talk / Re: Football Talk
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on: May 22, 2008, 06:59 am
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 Man U deserved it, they were far better in the first half and Ronaldo's goal was phenomanal. Weirdest penalty though, I can't decide whether it was arrogance or trying to be too precise. Why did Park have to sit in the crowd? Unless there's a good reason, it's was a very bad decision from the trainer. I generally don't like Chelsea, but I love Petr Cech. I wonder why Drogba got sent off with red during that babyfight? Either way, happy ending after all!
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General Community / Chit Chat / Re: News Thread
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on: May 21, 2008, 03:38 pm
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Don't follow that logic at all. Would you advocate that children hang on to toys which they've been given and have now outgrown or broken? You said: gifts I don't *want* any more. Not gifts you can't use any more. I was just illustrating life as a gift, not literally as something material. Call it a blessing or an opportunity. And that sounds like you agree anyway? (what about suffering mentally?)
I agree that someone with terrible physical pain should be able to end it. It's an exception for me, as generally I think you should be very careful with your life. To me personally, you can't end your life because of mental pain. There's a huge difference with physical pain when it comes to cause and hurt towards others. Gifts that hold little sentimental value are a waste of space and in some areas like London, space is bloody expensive so it is very sensible to throw away such gifts.
I see what you mean. For me, almost all gifts have enough value to keep. Perhaps not towards others. But as I said in the above, it was just an illustration.
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General Community / Chit Chat / Re: News Thread
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on: May 21, 2008, 03:31 pm
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Throwing away gifts is disrespectful?
When someone takes the effort to buy someone a gift, you shouldn't throw it out. I get the feeling your opinion on that matter will change when you have to pay for your own flat/house. What is the connection to receiving gifts and *paying* for your own house? Completely irrelevant.
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General Community / Chit Chat / Re: News Thread
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on: May 21, 2008, 03:27 pm
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The fact we didn't choose to be born means we should have more right to end our life. If we chose to be born then it would be our own fault.
I was just messing you with the last response actually. I often throw away gifts when I don't want them any more. Also, I can "choose" to die any day, regardless of whether I believe I chose to live ...
Throwing away material gifts already is disrespectful, which makes throwing away a life unthinkable. It's not because you are able to end your life yourself that you should or that it's right. You're also able to end someone else's life. But like I said, I support euthanasia completely when the person in question in suffering physically.
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General Community / Chit Chat / Re: News Thread
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on: May 21, 2008, 03:13 pm
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I believe it's our right to end our life at any time even if it hurts the people around us. I disagree. I don't think life is yours to take away. It's a gift you've received, one you shouldn't throw away. An exception for me would be someone who got into an accident or has an illness and is likely to live on a machine for eternity. Those people have the right to stop the pain and troubles. Personally, I'd want to fight for my life, but when breathing on a machine with no cure around the corner, the end can come.
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General Community / Chit Chat / Re: Who created us?
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on: May 18, 2008, 09:03 pm
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No, I think your view of anyone who doesn't take your view - like people who believe in religion - is very narrow.
The only reason you say that is because I was expressing my anti-religious opinion. I never expressed intolerance. All I did was give arguments, just like you, I never said anything personal. Nor did I 'condemn' anyone who was religious. You do realise that calling me narrow-minded isn't so open-minded of yourself? And another thing, my best friend's dad raised his children according to a religion I don't support. My favourite football players practise Islam. Yes, I'm narrow-minded.  I expected more from you.
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General Community / Chit Chat / Re: Who created us?
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on: May 18, 2008, 11:39 am
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But if everyone was as cynical as you, the world would be one hell of a depressing place.
What kind of a ridiculous statement is that? I'm cynical for being realistic and not believing in God? I'm pretty sure I enjoy my life 100 times more than a religious person who's walking on his toes all the time. You know when the world would be a depressing place? When all these religions keep bumping up against each other, trying to convince everyone and taking over the world. Oh, wait, that's what it is already.
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Pages / Archive: News / Re: Murray's premature autobiography
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on: May 18, 2008, 09:55 am
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Which book?
This one, I had to read it for our Dutch course. The list is filled with books that won prizes all over the world, like this one. Awful awful book, and the translator should have looked in to his grammar some more. I would say the same about your political opinions if I strongly disagreed with them. Opinion and ideas should be scrutinised. 
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General Community / Chit Chat / Re: Who created us?
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on: May 18, 2008, 09:52 am
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To call that a ridiculous view is stupid, since so many millions believe it. Maybe try and have some respect for others opinions. Millions of people believe(d) in communism, that doesn't make it right. People believe in God because they're scared or because they want/need comfort/self-validation. To me, those aren't good reasons to believe something isn't made up.
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General Community / Chit Chat / Re: Who created us?
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on: May 17, 2008, 07:55 pm
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I never said the law did those things, I said the law kept the people calm.
An earthquake can be explained through science, even for some religious people. Not all people who believe say the world is flawless.
I find it unfortunate that life doesn't suffice for most people as it's an incredible gift you've got. Dying is part of life. If belief in the afterlife lessens the pain of losing a relative for someone, I'm happy for them. I just think there's no more torture than being torn away from your family so 'heaven' is not a consolation. It seems like a way out so you don't have to face the facts.
I don't entirely believe that death is one black hole. I feel that the human body dies, but somehow a little part remains. There's nothing wrong with hoping for being re-united after death, but I'm not a fan of expressing religion through bibles, acts and judgements.
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General Community / Chit Chat / Re: Who created us?
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on: May 17, 2008, 07:23 pm
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Doesn't life itself suffice to keep going? Why do you need something to believe in?
What you're saying is true, as religion was the opium to keep the people calm a century ago. But today, the law should be enough for that.
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