[laundry]

Once again - and I'm not being a pain - but show me how Fed has cheated?   I just can't get on board with this and just think it's nonsense!

I can't show you because I can't remember the exact matches or details. All I remember in my head is that I have seen Federer cheat. I know that, that doesn't sound too convincing but I know I saw it. I can barely remember a single word Federer has said in interviews either but I know the profile of him I have built up from seeing them.

The same goes for every player; I can barely remember any of their matches I have seen or their interviews but I have built up a profile of them in my head. For example I know that I have seen Troiki cheat before but I can't tell you when, where or how he did it.

[Iluvandy]

I can't show you because I can't remember the exact matches or details. All I remember in my head is that I have seen Federer cheat. I know that, that doesn't sound too convincing but I know I saw it. I can barely remember a single word Federer has said in interviews either but I know the profile of him I have built up from seeing them.

The same goes for every player; I can barely remember any of their matches I have seen or their interviews but I have built up a profile of them in my head. For example I know that I have seen Troiki cheat before but I can't tell you when, where or how he did it.

I can remember quite a few and they are not all Fed.    Berdych at the US Open,   Djoko saying he didn't know he had to wait till the ball came to his side of the net before he could hit it,  both stick in my mind.         

[Elly]

Nobody's saying he's cheated his way to 19 Slams, but ILA has just pointed to a prime example of how he did cheat.

And if you want an example of how bad a loser he is, at the AO final in 2009 he was beaten by Rafa then instead of allowing Rafa to enjoy his victory, particularly as he was the first Spaniard for x number of years to do so, Fed hogged the limelight by blubbing like a bairn with self-pity, not just once, but he was given the chance to get himself together, then came back and did some more blubbing!  And the look on Rafa's face said it all.  So Andy cried when he lost to Fed in 2012 but at least he kept his misery to a minimum and would probably have preferred not have been interviewed anyway.

As I said above, Aileen.  I think a lot of people just can't stand his level of success, and that's their problem to deal with - not his.

[Aileen]

As I said above, Aileen.  I think a lot of people just can't stand his level of success, and that's their problem to deal with - not his.

Elly I have every admiration for all his achievements and for his tennis, but at the same time I'm not blind as to some of the not very pleasant things that he's said or done.

[laundry]

I have remembered one instance of seeing a Federer I have not liked, after Novak beat him at the USOpen SF:



This in my opinion this is Federer showing his real self. A very bad loser, dismissive that Novak could be better than him, instead calling him "lucky". Just the way he speaks and conducts himself you can see when the facade has gone. That is one of my issues with him because I can see that Roger has often been fake in interviews and when you can see that over the years you can pick up on the arrogant things he is really thinking by what he says and how he acts. Deep down he has had little respect for other players over the years.

That said I agree with others that Roger has certainly been better in more recent times. I think losing plenty may have put his ego in check, that or it has improved with age. But I can still not forget how he has been for the most part of his career.

[laundry]

So what are you going to do if you want to be a winner?  Tell everyone you're a loser?  I really think people are so duplicitous.  They want Andy to be aggressive, but they want him to be a 'nice guy'.  Not much wonder he's ****** up!

When someone believes they're better than everyone else and everyone else is below them and when they lose that their opponent must have been lucky or there was some other reason they won. Instead of having the humility to HONESTLY say congratulations, that they played well and beat me fairly on the day.

That's not the personality trait of someone I am ever going to like, plain and simple and I will always want to see them get beaten.

You will never ever see Andy do a presser like that, or even say or think it behind closed doors. Because simply he has much class and is a decent person where it counts.

I don't really have anything else to say beyond that.

[Iluvandy]

Can you please stop making this personal? 

No problem with that.     Can you?